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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #10 - 05/14/18 at 21:31:24
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trw wrote on 09/03/17 at 00:24:45:
I just bought the Collins book. I don't see that he mentions 9. b4 anywhere and definitely not a single correspondence game let alone the line you are talking about. Am I missing something?


Apologies for the delayed response. I thought I had replied to this, but apparently not!

All the 9.b4 positions are covered in the coverage to 9.Nd2, since the proposed repertoire allows for a transposition here. The notes are in the game Gelfand-Nakamura. The specific variations regarding the discussed line earlier (9. b4 Ne8 10.c5 f5 11.a4 Nf6 12.Nd2 f4 13.Nc4 g5 14. Nb5) are covered in the notes to 12.a4, which reaches the same position by transposition.
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #9 - 09/03/17 at 00:24:45
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gillbod wrote on 07/31/17 at 22:05:17:
kylemeister wrote on 07/31/17 at 21:34:33:
Regarding the ...Ne8 stuff versus 9. b4/Nd2, one could wonder what Collins has to say re fluffy's view that 9. b4 Ne8 10.c5 f5 11.a4 Nf6 12.Nd2 f4 13.Nc4 g5 14. Nb5 "may just blow up the whole line."


Collins is candid about not finding a route to clear equality here. He analyses both 14...Ne8 and 14...Nxe4.

14...Nxe4 is given more coverage, with a recent correspondence game providing the backbone for analysis. It does seem that the ball is in black's court here on a theoretical level. Collins does provide a decent amount of analysis, ending with a couple of variations with better endgames for white, but possibly holdable for black (according to Collins, but I suppose this depends on your opponent's strength!). White would have to be well-booked up to get there, though.

I didn't know about this line: KID newbie here. Thanks for flagging it.



I just bought the Collins book. I don't see that he mentions 9. b4 anywhere and definitely not a single correspondence game let alone the line you are talking about. Am I missing something?
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #8 - 07/31/17 at 22:05:17
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kylemeister wrote on 07/31/17 at 21:34:33:
Regarding the ...Ne8 stuff versus 9. b4/Nd2, one could wonder what Collins has to say re fluffy's view that 9. b4 Ne8 10.c5 f5 11.a4 Nf6 12.Nd2 f4 13.Nc4 g5 14. Nb5 "may just blow up the whole line."


Collins is candid about not finding a route to clear equality here. He analyses both 14...Ne8 and 14...Nxe4.

14...Nxe4 is given more coverage, with a recent correspondence game providing the backbone for analysis. It does seem that the ball is in black's court here on a theoretical level. Collins does provide a decent amount of analysis, ending with a couple of variations with better endgames for white, but possibly holdable for black (according to Collins, but I suppose this depends on your opponent's strength!). White would have to be well-booked up to get there, though.

I didn't know about this line: KID newbie here. Thanks for flagging it.
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #7 - 07/31/17 at 21:34:33
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Regarding the ...Ne8 stuff versus 9. b4/Nd2, one could wonder what Collins has to say in comparison to fluffy's view that 9. b4 Ne8 10.c5 f5 11.a4 Nf6 12.Nd2 f4 13.Nc4 g5 14. Nb5 "may just blow up the whole line."
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #6 - 07/31/17 at 20:46:17
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I picked up the ebook. Happy to answer any general questions within reason; you should be buying the book if you want to know its full contents! I am a d4 player on the whole (have mainly played the Averbakh against the KID), but I have never been a KID player, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

Coverage of sidelines could be fleshed out a bit more, but perhaps this is me asking too much from a one-volume repertoire with plenty of explanatory prose.

Lines do mesh quite nicely thematically on the whole, with some poisonous 'semi sidelines' included, e.g. the line against the Averbakh looks tricky for white to handle (see Fier-Vakhidov), which Kornev doesn't consider, and Grischuk's sacrifice against Svidler in the London Candidates is analysed in the Saemisch (which wasn't covered by Schandorff, obviously, having been introduced some time after Schandorff was published, I think).

Quick summary:

Fianchetto: As discussed in the preview. ...Nc6 followed by ...e5 with ...Nb8 to follow.
Classical 9.Ne1: Mar del Plata.
Classical Bayonet and Nd2: both are met with ...Ne8
Saemisch: ...c5 gambit line.
Averbakh: ...c5, meeting d5 with ...e6xd5 with an early ...Qb6.
Four pawns: ...Na6
Makonogov: ...Nh5, but playing ...Na6 before ...f5

I'm pleased so far: this is a practical OTB repertoire which aims to pick battles on its own ground.

Sidenote: There are some strange symbols 'ZO' in the .pgn files of the ebook that might make opening them hard. I can live with it just fine, but just a heads up in case you were thinking of buying it now; you might want to wait until this is fixed. You could probably fix it yourself by editing the .pgn, but this would be against Everyman's T&C's, AFAIK.
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #5 - 07/28/17 at 02:29:37
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BadDays wrote on 07/27/17 at 17:51:34:
My problem with this ...Nc6 line was always that 8.dxe5 is very annoying. I'll be interested to see what Collins recommends against it.

By the way, does anybody know why the book preview is in .PGN format? I find it extremely difficult to read.


You can open .pgn files in Chessbase or other databases.
  

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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #4 - 07/27/17 at 19:39:26
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... .PGN format? I find it extremely difficult to read.

A decent text editor helps. On Windows I use notepad++:
In the Style Configurator select "Pascal" as the language and enter "pgn" in the User ext. This gives nice syntax highlighting. Then in the pgn moves you can use Ctrl+B ("Go to matching brace") to find the end of a comment/variation.

I see that Collins agrees with you about 8.dxe5:
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(8. dxe5 {is a more annoying move, covered in the next game.})
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #3 - 07/27/17 at 19:01:31
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BadDays wrote on 07/27/17 at 17:51:34:
By the way, does anybody know why the book preview is in .PGN format? I find it extremely difficult to read.


I'm guessing it's because it's only available as a pgn at the moment. They normally put up PDFs too, which I imagine will follow at some point closer to the publishing of the hard copy.
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #2 - 07/27/17 at 17:51:34
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My problem with this ...Nc6 line was always that 8.dxe5 is very annoying. I'll be interested to see what Collins recommends against it.

By the way, does anybody know why the book preview is in .PGN format? I find it extremely difficult to read.
  
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Re: Everyman KID Move by Move Book
Reply #1 - 07/27/17 at 17:33:35
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From a preview I glanced at it was apparently the newfangled ...Nb8 in the Fianchetto, and ...ed stuff against the Gligoric.
  
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Everyman KID Move by Move Book
07/27/17 at 16:43:42
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It's now available as a PGN. The preview only gives a hint as to the line against the fianchetto, which is ...Nc6 intending ...e5.

Does anyone know what else is recommended?
  
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