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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #24 - 06/10/19 at 17:26:01
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Confused_by_Theory wrote on 06/09/19 at 19:59:02:
So there is a Ryzen 9 on the way. That does sounds mildly enticing. Also if not that then Ryzen 7 3700x is also good(?)


All of the Ryzens have very good price/performance for chess, so it's up to your budget. Also: do you want to keep some of that budget for an RTX card to run Leela on?

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But then... What about fixing the other parts of the computer and upgrading the CPU to Ryzen 9 in a month. Guess maybe another more or less random CPU will be needed as stop-gap in this case; although it should be possible to find something cheap then perhaps Smiley


The problem will be the mainboard. Most of the previous generation mainboards will support the Ryzen 3xxxx series, but not all of them and not all features. It would be sad to build a new machine now and to have to get an old mainboard.

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Also. Am I correct in assuming other components are less important compared to the CPU?


For performance, yes, aside from the GPU if you want to run Leela. For stability, it is worthwhile to buy a good PSU, mainboard and RAM as well. Nothing is more annoying than a machine that hangs or crashes if you analyze longer than 15 minutes!

A nice big SSD is also a worthwhile investment, so you can throw your databases, opening books and Syzygy endgame databases on it.
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #23 - 06/09/19 at 20:06:54
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Thanks for the replies btw.

Feels better to have some opinions from people who actually seem to have some knowledge of this stuff.
  
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Reply #22 - 06/09/19 at 19:59:02
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Hello.

So there is a Ryzen 9 on the way. That does sounds mildly enticing. Also if not that then Ryzen 7 3700x is also good(?)

But then... What about fixing the other parts of the computer and upgrading the CPU to Ryzen 9 in a month. Guess maybe another more or less random CPU will be needed as stop-gap in this case; although it should be possible to find something cheap then perhaps Smiley

Also. Am I correct in assuming other components are less important compared to the CPU?

Have a nice day.
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #21 - 06/09/19 at 17:11:15
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proustiskeen wrote on 06/09/19 at 14:46:09:
Maybe wait till the third series of Ryzen chips comes out in a month. The 3700x looks like a steal for price / performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-third-gen-ryzen-7nm-launch-intel-cpu,39449...


Yes indeed, and don't forget the PCIe 4.0 capability. Very interesting!
  
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Reply #20 - 06/09/19 at 14:46:09
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Maybe wait till the third series of Ryzen chips comes out in a month. The 3700x looks like a steal for price / performance.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-third-gen-ryzen-7nm-launch-intel-cpu,39449...
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #19 - 06/09/19 at 00:05:03
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Hi.

So I am getting a new computer (stationary) and will want it to be quite good at chess analysis.

Is Ryzen 7 still a good choice for central processing unit? Any other recommended components?

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Reply #18 - 10/17/17 at 14:33:35
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daniel7472 wrote on 10/16/17 at 06:46:09:
Still didn't buy the CPU so I throw in another question: i5 8400 or ryzen 5 1600?


The issue with the i5 is the expensive motherboard. You can use a B350 with the Ryzen - I recommend the Asus Prime Plus, which you can overclock in the OS with the Zenstates utility.
  
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Reply #17 - 10/17/17 at 13:38:37
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #16 - 10/16/17 at 22:35:55
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Bondefanger wrote on 09/27/17 at 15:49:00:
proustiskeen wrote on 09/27/17 at 14:50:17:
I always have a training partner, in lobotomized form given my playing strength, to play out positions against. Each day I can download new games from elite events to peruse. And there's always a new video on Youtube to watch while I'm on the treadmill.


Choosing the right chipset has nothing to do with these things you mention here. I could do these things just as well on a 10 year old Intel Celeron laptop.

Of the things you mention, only the part about having "the best player" could be affected by the chipset. And the importance of that, if you are primarily an OTB player, is certainly up for debate.

My present desktop computer is at least 5 years old, and optimized for silence rather than speed, and I do not feel the least bit at a disadvantage because of that that.

If the opposite became true, I would propably also quit chess. Smiley


Let's just admit that for some of us (like me) it's simply fun to know you have a strong engine--just as it would be fun to have a car that went faster than you could ever drive it. Irrational, but true.
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #15 - 10/16/17 at 06:46:09
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Still didn't buy the CPU so I throw in another question: i5 8400 or ryzen 5 1600?
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #14 - 09/27/17 at 15:49:00
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proustiskeen wrote on 09/27/17 at 14:50:17:
I always have a training partner, in lobotomized form given my playing strength, to play out positions against. Each day I can download new games from elite events to peruse. And there's always a new video on Youtube to watch while I'm on the treadmill.


Choosing the right chipset has nothing to do with these things you mention here. I could do these things just as well on a 10 year old Intel Celeron laptop.

Of the things you mention, only the part about having "the best player" could be affected by the chipset. And the importance of that, if you are primarily an OTB player, is certainly up for debate.

My present desktop computer is at least 5 years old, and optimized for silence rather than speed, and I do not feel the least bit at a disadvantage because of that that.

If the opposite became true, I would propably also quit chess. Smiley
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #13 - 09/27/17 at 14:50:17
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barnaby wrote on 09/25/17 at 20:07:05:
When owning the proper chipset is an important tool in playing chess is when I know the game has passed me by and its time for other things a life..

So long and thanks for all the fish.


Funny - for me, it makes the game more exciting. (And expensive, but who's counting?) I always have the best player in the world at my beck and call to answer questions. I always have a training partner, in lobotomized form given my playing strength, to play out positions against. Each day I can download new games from elite events to peruse. And there's always a new video on Youtube to watch while I'm on the treadmill.
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #12 - 09/26/17 at 12:26:42
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barnaby wrote on 09/25/17 at 20:07:05:
When owning the proper chipset is an important tool in playing chess


Thank god it isn't.

Back in 1998 I build a computer far stronger than anyone else I knew had. Optimized for chess calculations, it would calculate away on various positions when I wasn't at home. Either at critical positions or playing engine tournaments in my favorite dubious opening lines.

What good did it do for my chess? None at all.
  
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Re: CPU for chess analisys
Reply #11 - 09/26/17 at 05:59:31
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Reply #10 - 09/25/17 at 20:07:05
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When owning the proper chipset is an important tool in playing chess is when I know the game has passed me by and its time for other things a life..

So long and thanks for all the fish.
  
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