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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #10 - 09/06/17 at 19:08:38
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Keano wrote on 09/04/17 at 20:07:07:
But I stand by my point. Carlsen is getting a free roll here to eliminate any potential nasty opponents he has in mind for his title.


Knockouts are such a lottery anyway, the real problem is that it's a silly way of selecting candidates, not that Carlsen is allowed to play in it. 


  
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Reply #9 - 09/05/17 at 18:26:28
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Why isn't there more talk about Yaroslav's intentional forfeit?
  
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #8 - 09/04/17 at 20:07:07
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Karjakin I have no problem with because to get a shot at the World ch he still needs to win the Candidates.

But I stand by my point. Carlsen is getting a free roll here to eliminate any potential nasty opponents he has in mind for his title.
  
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #7 - 09/04/17 at 01:01:22
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Anish Giri was quoted as saying that Carlsen considers this to be the real world championship, but Giri expects he'll go back to spectating next year!
  
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Reply #6 - 09/03/17 at 18:23:15
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Keano wrote on 09/03/17 at 13:40:43:
How is Carlsen allowed to be in this?

Because the World Cup is (or tries to be?) primarily a tournament, and only secondarily a method to qualify for the Candidates.

You may ask the same question about Karjakin, who also is already qualified.

In general half of the qualification for the Candidates is a "farce", so I don't think it matters too much. I for one love the World Cup, and quite enjoy that Magnus decided to make it that bit stronger.
  
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Reply #5 - 09/03/17 at 15:01:58
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Keano wrote on 09/03/17 at 13:40:43:
How is Carlsen allowed to be in this?

Surely it is vastly unfair on the players he (might) knock out?



Good question. And wasting a spot that should go to another potential challenger... ala Topalov / Kamsky / Short / Morozevich / Sutosvky / or many other talents like IM Noritsyn who right fully earned a place here the proper way... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=853&v=qBNEcRgHkvE
  
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #4 - 09/03/17 at 13:40:43
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How is Carlsen allowed to be in this?

Surely it is vastly unfair on the players he (might) knock out?
  
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #3 - 09/02/17 at 17:59:32
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLWeW7dm3i4 GM Gustafsson also made one on stream. All sounded quite logical, which makes me a bit less confident about mine  Wink
  
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #2 - 09/02/17 at 15:40:32
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Re: 2017 World Cup
Reply #1 - 08/28/17 at 10:47:14
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http://challonge.com/tbilisi2017 you can make 'em here, and then potentially win c24 Premium or a coaching session or somesuch

http://challonge.com/tournaments/3773687/predictions/153148 this is mine

For anyone too lazy to check the entire link out, some cliffnotes
- Carlsen gets to the Quarterfinals and loses to MVL
- MVL loses in the Semifinals to Aronian
- Nepomniachtchi makes a surprisingly good run, beating So + Anand and only losing in the Semis to Ding Liren
- Wei Yi gets stopped by Caruana (who then loses to Ding Liren)
- Ding Liren takes it all

Not sure yet how much of this is prediction and how much wishful thinking, but a pure prediction would pretty much just be to pick the higher rated player everywhere, which seemed rather boring Wink

While going through this list of players, I was struck again by how much of a Dark Horse the chinese players are.. Wei Yi everyone knows, but the rest?
For a (near-)Top10 player, I have seen very few games of Ding Liren. Li Chao of course I know the name, but again, he's almost 2750 and I can't remember seeing a game of his, while all the players around him I know rather well. Bu Xiangzhi is 2710 and it's the first time I consciouly hear his name!
That should definitely influence their performance, but again, I'm unsure whether it'll help (opponents are less used to them) or hurt (they're less used to playing varying opponents of that level), or balances out.. mh.
  
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2017 World Cup
08/27/17 at 19:20:23
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The chess tournament, not the football.

Predictions?
  

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