Fllg wrote on 09/03/17 at 07:09:06:
trw wrote on 09/03/17 at 00:30:06:
I just bought the Collins book. I don't see that he mentions 9. b4 anywhere and definitely not a single correspondence game let alone the line you are talking about. Am I missing something?
I donīt have the book myself and just relied on the other thread where itīs mentioned that against both the Bayonet 9.b4 and 9.Nd2 Collins recommends ...Ne8.
What else does Collins recommend against the Classical Variation if not the Mar del Plata? And if itīs 7...Nc6 8.d5 Ne7 then I cannot imagine that 9.b4 isnīt covererd?!
He covers 9. Ne1 and 9. Nd2 but no 9. b4
fjd wrote on 09/03/17 at 06:41:50:
Bologan suggests this line for Black in his newest KID DVD (and possibly also his new book?)
ArKheiN wrote on 09/03/17 at 08:02:15:
I have the Dvd from Bologan and indeed he offers Ne8 but then he continue in a rare way. Not very deep coverage and not too convincing, I don't even remember exactly from memory but it's still quite interesting. In his last book he goes for Nh5 only if I am right. I am pretty sure Anand knew well Ne8, the coverage was quite good for White un Opening for White according to Kramnik until Black's play has been well improved in the old early f3 mainline. You see Anand played a very delayed f3 vs Nakamura which is the modern and dangerous way of playing against Ne8 and then Nakamura plays the very rare, slow and provocative h6 to tell Anand he can now accept to play f3 where h5 will be necessary for Black, losing a whole tempo in the old Ne8 mainline. While I am pretty sure Nakamura knew the normal lines very well, I am sure he took a calculated risk when he did play h6 to lure Anand in a typical double edged King's Indian, underestimating his play. The middlegame was a great punishment from Anand until the blunder where the All-In bluff finally paid off.
In Bologan's first book 2009, he covers solely Nh5.
In Bologan's second book 2017, he covers Nh5, a5 and c6.
So I guess you don't think much of Bologan's DVD?
TN wrote on 09/03/17 at 01:02:59:
I don't have time to check it now, but I recall Kristian Szabo writing a CBM article on this in late 2013. Actually, many years ago I remember meeting 9...Nd7 with 10.Re1 f5 11.Ng5, when my opponent played 11...Nf6 and we transposed to the 9...Nh5 main line.
That would not be so effective against 9...Ne8 though.
Great, thank you. Any idea which one?