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Reply #9 - 09/11/17 at 19:02:28
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Fllg wrote on 09/10/17 at 08:24:13:
I remember playing this in a few games when I was young but nowadays I think this is a very risky choice, especially compared to the solid 5...exf6.

White scores 70 % with 6.c3 Bf5 7.Nf3 e6 8.g3 which would put me off unless you have some good Idea for Black here.


6.c3 h5!? is interesting
  
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Reply #8 - 09/11/17 at 18:54:12
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I was always fond of this line for blitz chess. DEspite its reputation there is a big list of famous players who have played it.
  
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Reply #7 - 09/11/17 at 12:26:36
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Interesting thought. I wondered if White would be as likely to commit to Nxf6 in the Two Knights, but I guess the alternatives are fairly passive...
  

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Reply #6 - 09/11/17 at 09:10:56
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I believe both variations with 4. ... Nf6 might be better suited against the two knights system, as the white knight has been committed to f3 already. Jobava used 5. ... exf6 in his famous victory against Karjakin, so it's definitely something. 5. ... gxf6 seems fine there too, at least in a sense that white doesn't achieve a crushing score even if he plays the most precise theory.
  
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Reply #5 - 09/10/17 at 19:02:50
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Reply #4 - 09/10/17 at 13:43:24
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I might also point out that my interest here is in correspondence chess. It seems as though it's possible to get into relatively uncharted territory well before engines can provide definitive help to the less familiar player.
  

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Reply #3 - 09/10/17 at 13:41:10
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Fllg wrote on 09/10/17 at 08:24:13:
White scores 70 % with 6.c3 Bf5 7.Nf3 e6 8.g3 which would put me off unless you have some good Idea for Black here.


I'll need to study this more carefully, but I was playing around with 8...h5 9.Bg2 Be4 last night. Judging by both the Age of most games in the databases and the quality of players involved, there's every chance that some interesting ideas can still be found...
  

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Re: Bronstein-Larsen
Reply #2 - 09/10/17 at 10:55:12
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HgMan wrote on 09/10/17 at 03:13:46:
Is there any literature on the Bronstein-Larsen other than Silman's fairly old book?

https://www.everymanchess.com/dangerous-weapons-the-caro-kann

http://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/davies_the_4_nf6_caro_kann
  
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Re: Bronstein-Larsen
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I remember playing this in a few games when I was young but nowadays I think this is a very risky choice, especially compared to the solid 5...exf6.

White scores 70 % with 6.c3 Bf5 7.Nf3 e6 8.g3 which would put me off unless you have some good Idea for Black here.
  
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Bronstein-Larsen
09/10/17 at 03:13:46
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1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nf6 5.Nxf6+ gxf6

I don't want to pretend that this is superior to the mainline Caro Kann, but is it theoretically sound? And to what extent might one acquire any winning chances with the Black pieces? Database stats look skeptical, but there doesn't seem to be a steady development in the theory.

Negi recommends 6.Nf3 Bg4 7.Be2, but his survey is fairly cursory. Alternatively, 6.c3 Bf5 7.Nf3 seems to score exceptionally well for White. But it seems as though the unorthodox array of pawns can result in some pretty intriguing late middle games and endgames that tend to favour the stronger player. Sound right? Any thoughts? Is there any literature on the Bronstein-Larsen other than Silman's fairly old book?
  

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