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Re: Seirawan’s games (and analysis) with 8 ... fxe6
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JonathanB wrote on 10/23/17 at 07:58:14:
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I suppose one good reason for the position not cropping up more often is that Candidates’ for the World Championship no longer have the Pirc / Modern as their main defence to 1 e4.


My collection of British games from the last 15-20 years has 8 examples. Four games where they took the instant draw and four where White continued with Nxb5

It's also possible and reasonably popular to play 8. .. Bxb5 and meet 9. exf7 with .. Kd7.

Engines don't think that is particularly bad for Black.
  
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Re: Seirawan’s games (and analysis) with 8 ... fxe6
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RdC wrote on 10/22/17 at 21:39:48:
There are a couple of games, the most recent from 1991, in the long line quoted. Engine opinion is that it's about equal.


Thanks.

The free online databases aren’t much help with this line.  Vigus’ Pirc in Black and White (published 2007) quotes two games reaching 26 ... Rf2. One of those from 1988. One from 1991.

I suppose one good reason for the position not cropping up more often is that Candidates’ for the World Championship no longer have the Pirc / Modern as their main defence to 1 e4.
  

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Re: Seirawan’s games (and analysis) with 8 ... fxe6
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JonathanB wrote on 10/22/17 at 17:40:27:
Is that really all there are?


It would seem so.

There are a couple of games, the most recent from 1991, in the long line quoted. Engine opinion is that it's about equal.

I think the verdict is that the whole line just got added to the "how to draw quickly and impress people who haven't seen it before" list of games.

Nowadays I would regard the 150 Attack including its European version featuring f4 as the dangerous Pirc (and Modern) killer that the Austrian used to be,
  
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Seirawan’s games (and analysis) with 8 ... fxe6
10/22/17 at 17:40:27
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Whilst we wait for Marin’s QC book on the Pirc to be published ...

I was wondering if anybody knew of any games that Seirawan played with his 8 ... fxe6 TN in the Austrian Attack.

All i’ve been able to find are these 5 games:-

Sax, Brussels World Cup 1988
Nunn, Skelleftea Word Cup, 1989
van der Wiel, World Team Championship 1989
Hellers, Haninge 1990
van der Wiel, Hanninge 1990

and perhaps you could argue that Nunn - Benjamin, Thessaloniki Olympiad 1988 is a Yasser game by proxy.

Is that really all there are?



Secondly, what’s the feeling about Seirawan’s assessment that "Black will score well" from the position below. Do you feel, thirty years on, it turned out to be true?


1n6/4p2p/2kp4/1pp3P1/6n1/6P1/PP1N1r1P/R1K4R w - - 1 27






  

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