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Reply #106 - 05/27/19 at 23:31:08
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Help anyone?
How to post pdf here? Sorry, but I don't know. 

Tony K? 

if not, perhaps save the pgn in Google Drive (or Dropbox, any similar free cloud service) and post the link here...?
  
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Reply #105 - 05/26/19 at 18:25:17
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Hiya.

Any other place on the site I can put the files then? Smiley

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Reply #104 - 05/21/19 at 11:26:12
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Not a sausage here either, alas. Cannot download. Using Chrome.

Much respect for all the work on this by the way CbT. It has been really interesting to follow, and I am looking forward to seeing in CB, upon downloading.
  
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Reply #103 - 05/21/19 at 05:35:32
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With firefox I got nothing. Now on ios I get "Safari cannot open the page because the address is invalid."

https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=test%5F0...

Should there be a semi-colon? I would expect ampersand.

Edited:
Ampersand gives the same "address is invalid" message.
  
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Reply #102 - 05/21/19 at 05:17:35
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Reply #101 - 05/21/19 at 04:46:05
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Maybe we have broken the internet Huh
  
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Reply #100 - 05/21/19 at 04:19:28
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/21/19 at 03:53:40:
I click on pgn link, but nothing happens. Is it site glitch ¿

Same here. I also clicked on one of my own attachments, and didn't get anything. But I notice the count of Downloads was incremented (after browser refresh).
  
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Reply #99 - 05/21/19 at 03:53:40
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I click on pgn link, but nothing happens. Is it site glitch ¿
  
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Reply #98 - 05/20/19 at 06:37:30
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And part 2 Cool
  

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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #97 - 05/20/19 at 06:37:01
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Hi.

Finally I want to share with you an analysis file. I have been building and using it while doing these summary posts on various 4.Bf4 lines. Going through it (just browsing and trying to spot small errors) was easily a 10min job and I didn't find anything in particular to fix so it was mostly scrolling. There are bound to be small glitches though and of course any and all analysis given can definitely be both tested and challenged.

It all clocked in at 70KB. I had to split it for this reason - There was a file size limit of 50KB. Choosing how was not as enjoyable as splitting a cake. Everything except:
1.e4 d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 g6 4.Bf4 Bg7 5.Qd2 c6 6.Bh6 Bxh6 can be found in part 1 and part 2 is exclusively this line.

Various imperfections aside I feel that with the posting of this very big file anyone aiming to play 4.Bf4 as a repertoire choice would have good possibilities to do so.

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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #96 - 05/17/19 at 08:06:14
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Hi.

RdC wrote on 05/16/19 at 06:47:50:
The London system with 2. Bf4 has become very popular. One of the ideas being the line 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6. So the position from the Pirc after 4 Bf4 will have had recent scrutiny at GM level.

Yes. I can see. London players probably need to book up some more on the Pirc though to be honest. Smiley

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/16/19 at 08:53:47:
It was definitely a joke, given my name. Лев никогда не крадет Cheesy

Don't speak Russian sadly, even though I have some decent (but fast dimming) understanding of the cyrillic alphabet.

"Lions never steal". Right? 
I suppose they are just successful at having other animals voluntarily hand over downed prey in some situations. Wink

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/16/19 at 08:53:47:
All of these analyses look like more than I ever saw in other Pirc book. Have you consulted Nunn's Complete Pirc, Wigus, Marin and all others ¿ If you could challenge all of their assessments, that would be a thing. But a lot of work.

I have the books mentioned but don't really look in them with the view to challenge assessment after assessment. Neither Vigus (limited by his book format - essentially he is rarely trying to fix every single possible crack in the lines he favours) or Nunn (book to old) would feel right to do this against actively in my opinion.

On the other hand. This very 4.Bf4 repertoire goes into a Marin line at one point and some time ago I also mentioned a possible improvement in his 4.Be3 c6 line. Also at some point I mentioned I was displeased with Kornev's 4.Bg5 lines. So there are moments when I think the last word has not been said and things like this happen. Checking for such lines is not really rewarding for me in practical play though. I already score very well against the Pirc/Modern Grin Edit: and with it Grin Grin (even though less well in comparison). At my level possible tests as black are also quite rare and mostly in the already very forcing lines.

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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #95 - 05/16/19 at 08:53:47
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Confused_by_Theory wrote on 05/16/19 at 07:35:26:
If ever I publish a repertoire book though... You will now get a very nice comment in the introduction  Grin "Some detractors positively salivated over the possibility of making a quick buck from writing their own repertoire book; aimed, of course, solely at bashing this one. Such agregious capitalism and blatant anti-comradeship amongst chess players brings a tear or two to my eyes. Saddest of all though would have been the communist leaders of a bygone era, who tried and (as can be evidenced) failed in ridding the world of the greedy opportunism on display. Cheesy


It was definitely a joke, given my name. Лев никогда не крадет Cheesy

All of these analyses look like more than I ever saw in other Pirc book. Have you consulted Nunn's Complete Pirc, Wigus, Marin and all others ¿ If you could challenge all of their assessments, that would be a thing. But a lot of work.

Having said this I do not like encourage too much. After all, I play Pirc from Black's side  Cheesy
  
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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #94 - 05/16/19 at 07:35:26
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Hi.

Well. I've considered changing my current business plan. This can be said without much of a blink. Grin

Write books is not such an obvious phase 2 for me though mainly because a) I'm a weak player compared to most authors and b) because the only subjects that would make sense would be quite niche Pirc/Modern or some other comparativly non standard opening (non-Nf6 KID comes to mind). This will be a hard sell (and a lot of work).

Instead I have more seriously considered making something in pamphlet form (like a self published PDF). On the repertoire I just proposed for example; although there would have to be time for formatting, editing, improving the text etc. In short a fair bit of work. Maybe someday though.

If ever I publish a repertoire book though... You will now get a very nice comment in the introduction  Grin "Some detractors positively salivated over the possibility of making a quick buck from writing their own repertoire book; aimed, of course, solely at bashing this one. Such egregious capitalism and blatant anti-comradeship amongst chess players brings a tear or two to my eyes. Saddest of all though would have been the communist leaders of a bygone era, who tried and (as can be evidenced) failed in ridding the world of the greedy opportunism on display. Cheesy

Have a nice day.

Edit: Corrected complete misspelling.
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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #93 - 05/16/19 at 06:47:50
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Confused_by_Theory wrote on 05/16/19 at 02:01:50:
Then it will be possible to deduce exactly how far off the mark I am in my promotion of 4.Bf4 as a serious try for advantage



The London system with 2. Bf4 has become very popular. One of the ideas being the line 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bf4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6. So the position from the Pirc after 4 Bf4 will have had recent scrutiny at GM level.
  
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Re: Pirc 4 Bf4: Best Lines/Move Orders
Reply #92 - 05/16/19 at 03:51:17
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Have you thought of writing repertoire book ¿ Your analyses are fairly damned detailed. 

Then I could publish a Pirc book for Black against your recommendations.

That last part was joke by the way  Cheesy
  
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