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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #8 - 08/02/18 at 13:33:37
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I wonder is it better to have the Queen on c7 or on b6 in those type of Rauzer-ish positions?

I imagine the evaluation in both cases is just very slightly better for White.
  
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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #7 - 07/30/18 at 21:49:04
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Stigma wrote on 07/30/18 at 21:41:12:
Reading this, I think I may have mixed up. Probably this (7...Qb6 8.Qd2 Nc6) was the line mentioned in the updated Sharpest Sicilian, as a more solid backup to their original recommendation, the Poisoned Pawn.


Pretty sure you are (now) correct.
  
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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #6 - 07/30/18 at 21:41:12
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Keano wrote on 07/30/18 at 19:25:51:

In a similar vein is the "poisoned pawn bluff variation" : 

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6 8. Qd2
Nc6!? 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nb3 Bd7 11. O-O-O O-O-O etc. where we end up with a similar structure.


Reading this, I think I may have mixed up. Probably this (7...Qb6 8.Qd2 Nc6) was the line mentioned in the updated Sharpest Sicilian, as a more solid backup to their original recommendation, the Poisoned Pawn.

But I don't have time to check the book right now.
  

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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #5 - 07/30/18 at 19:25:51
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Stigma wrote on 07/30/18 at 17:12:15:

The line has been a favorite of repertoire authors, maybe for the same reason (less theoretical than the main lines). It's also in Mastering the Najdorf by Arizmendi and Moreno, and in an update to the Chess Stars book The Sharpest Sicilian.

Of course Black must be OK with a Rauzer structure (doubled f-pawns) to play 7...Qc7 with confidence.


Thats interesting. I didnt know authors were recommending that. 

In a similar vein is the "poisoned pawn bluff variation" : 

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bg5 e6 7. f4 Qb6 8. Qd2
Nc6!? 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Nb3 Bd7 11. O-O-O O-O-O etc. where we end up with a similar structure.

  
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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #4 - 07/30/18 at 17:12:15
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kylemeister wrote on 07/30/18 at 16:48:03:
Stigma wrote on 07/30/18 at 15:39:54:
So maybe 6...e6 7.f4 Qc7 is a relatively untheoretical option.


Reminded me of the fact that Everyman just recycled John Emms' 15-year-old book recommending it.

The line has been a favorite of repertoire authors, maybe for the same reason (less theoretical than the main lines). It's also in Mastering the Najdorf by Arizmendi and Moreno, and in an update to the Chess Stars book The Sharpest Sicilian.

Of course Black must be OK with a Rauzer structure (doubled f-pawns) to play 7...Qc7 with confidence.
  

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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #3 - 07/30/18 at 16:48:03
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Stigma wrote on 07/30/18 at 15:39:54:
So maybe 6...e6 7.f4 Qc7 is a relatively untheoretical option.


Reminded me of the fact that Everyman just recycled John Emms' 15-year-old book recommending it.
  
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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #2 - 07/30/18 at 15:39:54
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Keano wrote on 07/30/18 at 10:25:31:
"Lazy" and "Najdorf" are not two words I would have ever thought of putting together.

I toyed with the idea of putting together a lazy Najdorf repertoire at one point. I would meet 6.Be3 with 6...Ng4, and against 6.f3 either try to make 6...Qb6 work or transpose to the Dragondorf. Against 6.Be2, 6...Nbd7 is a tricky move order, alternatively there are Dragon transpositions here too.

6.Bg5 was a big issue. 6...Nbd7 fit stylistically with my other choices, but its popularity was starting to take off and it has now become the main line! So maybe 6...e6 7.f4 Qc7 is a relatively untheoretical option.

And then there's 6.h3, 6.g3, 6.Bc4, 6.f4, 6.a4, 6.Nb3, 6.Qf3 etc. etc.

But the main lines are usually the main lines because they are the best. A sideline repertoire in the Najdorf isn't something to rely on, just a slightly dodgy blitz or surprise weapon.
  

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Re: Lazy Najdorf
Reply #1 - 07/30/18 at 10:25:31
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"Lazy" and "Najdorf" are not two words I would have ever thought of putting together.
  
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Lazy Najdorf
07/13/18 at 09:00:34
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There is a Ginger GM DVD on the Najdorf: https://gingergm.com/shop/the-lazy-najdorf . Interestingly, you can buy the PGN separately (very lightly annotated) for 1 pound (the DVD is 20 pounds and that includes the PGN, so if you're sure you want both, buy the DVD). Most of it is just well-chosen example games and Danny Gormally and Simon Williams talking through. About 10% of the running time is funny stories. I enjoyed them but I guess it's not for everyone. You won't learn too much theory from the DVD, but the example games seem to be quite instructive.

There aren't particular lines recommended per se, but many games are in the English attack, both with e6 and e5 lines. At the end of the DVD, there are 7 shortish videos that go through the theory of various lines, but the lines are still mostly just illustrative. Most of the value stems from the example games. 

8/10 would buy again
  
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