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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #20 - 02/12/19 at 20:36:36
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Thanks.  I recall Ametanoitos (Ntirlis) favoring 9...f6, which also got a positive mention by Psakhis back in 1992 (The Complete French).
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #19 - 02/12/19 at 20:13:49
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kylemeister wrote on 02/12/19 at 18:48:04:
tracke wrote on 02/12/19 at 18:27:34:
In the Exchange Variation Lakdawala ignores some warnings from Berg2015 concerning 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.0-0 Nge7 7.c3 Bg4 8.Re1 Qd7 9.Nbd2 0-0-0?!


Just curious ...there's a game Ong-Berg from 2005 which stuck in my memory (basically it went from sharpness to an evenish ending, which Berg won).  Did Berg refer to that?


No. Berg2015 gives 9...0-0 as solid and equal while he recommends 9...f6! as flexibel and more promising.
Regarding 9...0-0-0 Berg2015 says: „I have played this successfully myself but, after checking it carefully, I was forced to conclude that Black is taking too big a risk“
The game Ong -Berg 2005 went 9...0-0-0 10.b4 Ng6 11.Nb3 but Berg2015 fears 11.h3! or 11.b5 Nce7 12.h3, which are both not mentioned by Lakdawala.
The game Horstmann(2182)-Richter(2491) Berlin 2014 continued 11.h3 Nf4 12.Bf1 Bh5 13.Qa4 Kb8 14.b5 Ne7 15.Ne5! Bxe5 16.dxe5 Ne6 17.Nb3 Bg6 18.Be3 (+/- Berg2015) b6 19.Nd4 Nxd4 20.cxd4 Rhe8 , and in this position, which is +- (~ +3) according to the engines, the amateur accepted the master‘s draw offer.
The lesser evil for Black would be 11...Bf5 (Watson) 12.Nb3 Bxd3 13.Qxd3 Rhe8 14.Be3 with advantage (+/-).

IMO Berg2015 is the most important source about the Exchange variation from Black‘s perspective and the mentioned line (why 9...f6 and not 9...0-0-0) is the core of Berg‘s coverage. The book is well known and 4 years old, so Lakdawala or the editors could have checked!?

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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #18 - 02/12/19 at 19:53:42
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I wish he had chosen 4...exd5 in the Tarrasch. It is becoming more popular again with some new ideas. 4...Dxd5 however, whilst very good theoretically, is becoming riddled with opening theory and long lines.

I get quite annoyed at the strange fancy writing that he uses. Why not say literally what he wants to say instead of the poetic language ¿  Cheesy
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #17 - 02/12/19 at 18:48:04
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tracke wrote on 02/12/19 at 18:27:34:
In the Exchange Variation Lakdawala ignores some warnings from Berg2015 concerning 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.0-0 Nge7 7.c3 Bg4 8.Re1 Qd7 9.Nbd2 0-0-0?!


Just curious ...there's a game Ong-Berg from 2005 which stuck in my memory (basically it went from sharpness to an evenish ending, which Berg won).  Did Berg refer to that?
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #16 - 02/12/19 at 18:27:34
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My copy arrived only some hours ago and I‘m no expert for these systems, neither a Frenchie nor an 1e4 attacker

The usual „entertaining and inspiring“ language and work from Lakdawala, the level IMO more Move-by-Move than Opening Repertoire...

At the Anti-Winawers there’s nothing about the Winckelmann-Reimer-Gambit 4.a3 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 dxe4 6.f3?! This gambit might be risky, dubious or bad but it‘s certainly dangerous to encounter this totally unprepared over the board ...

In the Qd5 Tarrasch the sacrificial line 11.Re1 Qc7 12.Bb3 Bd6 13.Nf5 is covered well but 12.Bf1 (as played on highest level and recommended by Shaw2018) not at all.

In the Exchange Variation Lakdawala ignores some warnings from Berg2015 concerning 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.0-0 Nge7 7.c3 Bg4 8.Re1 Qd7 9.Nbd2 0-0-0?!

Advance, KIA, 2Knights and minor variations seem okay.

Well, the b6/Qd7 Winawer ... I‘m no expert on this and computer evaluation (strongly favouring White) might count for something or not.
I tried to compare with Negi but that comparison was very difficult ( especially in short time). The system is very transpositional, besides Lakdawala‘s coverage is more about „ideas, plans, manoeuvres and structure“ with several move orders but Lakdawala not recommending one of them ( to be fair, Negi often restricts himself to exemplary lines calling everything else „similar“). I’m not sure if Lakdawala built a solid repertoire move-ordering Negi or if Lakdawala has no ideas against Negi and just fixed the coverage in a way that doesn’t cross Negi‘s move order?! In short time I found only one example where Lakdawala explicitly ignores Negi:
(Game16 Eliseev-Fedoseev 2016) 4.e5 Qd7 5.a3 Bxc3+ 6.bxc3 b6 7.Qg4 f5 8.Qg3 Ba6 9.Bxa6 Nxa6 10.Ne2 Nb8 11.Nf4 Kf7
and here Lakdawala only has 12.Qf3 while Negi (other move order, p.202 right coloumn) recommends 12.Nh5!?

For sure a much deeper investigation is necessary with better analysts than me, but for now and on the whole I wouldn’t trust Lakdawala that his systems are really promising to play on higher levels against preparation!?

But who am I ?!

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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #15 - 01/23/19 at 16:47:32
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Thanks, that's useful suggestion.
  

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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #14 - 01/23/19 at 00:01:14
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Perhaps this complex 4...b6/4...Dd7 is getting more popular. I am going over some lines from French database of Marin:

https://www.modern-chess.com/en/chess-databases/database=41

I tend to trust Marin in opening theory, since he has wrotten excellent books throughout history. I doubt that he would have recommended this line if there had been some problem therewith.

Both Marin and Lakdawala recommend 5. Dg4 Af8, I am interesting to see how they compare with each other. Often Black tries to play some strange Advance-hybrid by ...Cge7->...Cf5 plus ...h5. Then trying to swap on a6 sometimes. Looks like an interesting setup to me.

kylemeister wrote on 01/18/19 at 04:49:18:
After 5 a3 Bf8!?, White played 6 Bb5+! c6 7 Ba4.  It’s worth knowing this maneuver: the plan is Nce2, c3, and Bc2, and there’s little that can be done to stop it."


In the database of Marin that I bought, he recommends 6...Ad7 here. Then Black can try to play for ...c5 without wasting tempi.
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #13 - 01/22/19 at 21:25:03
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Agreed and given the fact that I play the Classical Dutch I can't complain about += anyway. However I do expect an author writing a book like Lakdawala's to point out such lines, so that I can research them and won't have to figure everything out during my games. I don't trust Lakdawala in this respect and the exceprt hasn't taken away my distrust.
  

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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #12 - 01/22/19 at 17:45:06
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Oops on the excerpt.

I take it "+= with best play" has been the usual view of this stuff.   I see that a blurb for a 2013 CBM article on 4...Qd7 said that Leonid Kritz shows how White obtains a [slight?] advantage with precise play.  I presume that Negi in his book of the following year thought White could obtain a [slight?] advantage.
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #11 - 01/22/19 at 10:28:59
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The link in the OP gives the same excerpt; actually it contains one complete game. It leaves me in doubt, because the mirrored KID-style a la Petrosjan is not what I would prefer. I'm mainly interested in in exchanging white-squared bishops.
Inspired by this thread I've looked at a few lines and 4...Qd7 5.Qg4 f5 6.Qh5+ Qf7 7.Qf3 seems to promise White an edge. And I'm not sure if I'm comfortable with 4...b6 5.Qg4 Bf8.
Lakdawala's The Furious Veresov has its pluses, eg it is quite entertaining, but now and then the author is extremely sloppy, leading to completely incorrect conclusions. As this repertoire book on the French also is build around lightly annotated games I have serious doubts whether he will identify and research critical attempts by WHite.
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #10 - 01/21/19 at 17:45:32
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Sample (Leseprobe) at
https://www.schachversand.de/de/the-french-defence-18935.html

...including a fraction of the main line Winawer chapter, which starts with two Petrosian games from the '50s.
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #9 - 01/18/19 at 13:40:06
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MNb wrote on 01/18/19 at 11:02:43:
The reason Watson stopped recommending this line is because of the sharp variation [b]1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Qd7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 b6 7. Qg4 f5 8. Qg3 Ba6 9. Bxa6 Nxa6 10. Ne2 Nb8 11. Nf4 ......

there is also 10...Kf7 as       Aryan Chopra, (2536)
      Antipov, Mikhail Al. (2626)
Event: 51st Biel Master Open
Site: Biel SUI
Round: 9.10      Date: 08/01/2018
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #8 - 01/18/19 at 11:02:43
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 01/18/19 at 02:54:36:
The reason Watson stopped recommending this line is because of the sharp variation [b]1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. e5 Qd7 5. a3 Bxc3+ 6. bxc3 b6 7. Qg4 f5 8. Qg3 Ba6 9. Bxa6 Nxa6 10. Ne2 Nb8 11. Nf4 ......

There is 11...Kf7.
IIrc there is another problem line; I'll have to look it up. I'd love to regain confidence in 4...Qd7.
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #7 - 01/18/19 at 08:01:27
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I have Marin's French database of Modern Chess, and if I remember correctly he recommended putting the bitchop on d7 instead of going into the ...c6 type lines.

Not sure if Lakdawala would recommend that, but it looks better than ...c6, since Black can play ...c5 in one move.
  
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Re: French book by Everyman to publish February
Reply #6 - 01/18/19 at 04:49:18
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A bit from Watson (Aug. 2017 update):  "Black’s systems with ...b6 instead of ...c5 always have a minor following, and recently we’ve seen a surprising number of games with 3 Nc3 Bb4 4 e5 b6 (or here 4...Qd7 intending ...b6). Vaganian is one of the faithful adherents to this strategy, but after decades of playing it, he inexplicably fell into one of the worst variations in Morozevich, A -Vaganian,R, Biel 2017. After 5 a3 Bf8!?, White played 6 Bb5+! c6 7 Ba4.  It’s worth knowing this maneuver: the plan is Nce2, c3, and Bc2, and there’s little that can be done to stop it."
  
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