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Reply #109 - 12/02/20 at 02:35:13
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Thanks a lot, LeeRoth.

I guess I have a few more cutting-edge sources for the Petrosian KID already, then. So I'm skipping the book for now. I may still get it at a later time for the 1.d4 d5, Grünfeld, Nimzo and Modern Benoni parts.
  

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Reply #108 - 11/30/20 at 18:35:43
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@Stigma --

The Petrosian KID chapter features three games by Petrosian, one by Korchnoi, one by Mecking and two by Kramnik.  So, no, not a modern approach.

The Gruenfeld recommendation does indeed include 4.Nf3 Bg7 5.Bf4 0-0 6.Rc1 dxc4 7.e4 a la Kramnik-Kasparov, Frankfurt (rpd) 1998.    
  
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Reply #107 - 11/30/20 at 18:03:00
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 10/30/19 at 20:20:04:
Cyrus is very hard working. He seems to be writing all the time. Yes, his style is... shall we say... quirky — which he attributes to his being autistic.


Does he really?  I haven't lived in San Diego for some years, but while I was there Cyrus and I were friends and I've been to his home a number of times.  He hosted great New Year's Eve parties and always seemed personable, social, and kind.  I wouldn't have thought of him as having autism.

Anyhow I realize that this is an old post and that I'm not really bringing anything very relevant into the conversation, I just noticed it now and it surprised me.
  
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Reply #106 - 11/30/20 at 17:42:55
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I'm thinking of getting the Lakdawala book and mining it for backup lines for my 1.d4 repertoire (after checking them carefully, of course). But still I have a couple of questions about the coverage, especially of the KID and the Grünfeld:

semper_fidelis wrote on 02/16/19 at 18:54:22:
Not quite. If he follows e.g. Kramnik-Nakamura, 2014, the plan with Be3 and long castling leads to sharp positions quickly.

This was about the Petrosian KID and the sharp, modern interpretation of it, often with 0-0-0. Does Lakdawala in fact go for this, or is the chapter more typically positional?

Against the Grünfeld his setup is 4.Bf4 with 5.Nf3 (or vice versa). I thought 4.Bf4 with 5.e3 was more flexible, and it also scores a bit better in practice. So how does Lakdawala justify his choice? Does he go for the ambitious 5...0-0 6.Rc1 dxc4 7.e4, by any chance?
  

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Reply #105 - 11/05/19 at 19:54:42
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You're right!

By the way, his Play the London is one of the better Lakdawala books and one of the better London books for amateurs.
  
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Reply #104 - 11/01/19 at 09:56:45
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VGA wrote on 10/31/19 at 23:09:10:
His "opening repertoire e4" is good but there is also "Keep it Simple e4" by Sielecki.


But the lines are so different. There aren't so many e4 repertoires out there with a thematic consistency of gaining space, which is what Lakdawala's is.

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I *think* his Caro Kann book is good but there are also Jovanka Houska's books. And so on and so forth... the Veresov book is one of his badly received ones.


But Houska is basing her lines on 4...Bf5 lines, whereas Lakdawala focuses on the Smyslov. Again, I think he brought something new to the table.
  
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Reply #103 - 10/31/19 at 23:09:10
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Dink Heckler wrote on 10/31/19 at 16:00:43:
No comments on the chess, but Lakdawala's frankly cringeworthy prose is the type of nonsense you'd only expect to see in self-published literature. Whatever about the author, do they not utilise editors at any of these publishing houses?!

I guess his books sell and he is on schedule and reliable. I don't get what the huge deal is, there are alternatives to most of his books.

His Petroff books are good but there is also the "vigorous" repertoire against e4. His "opening repertoire e4" is good but there is also "Keep it Simple e4" by Sielecki. His Qd6 Scandinavian book is good but there is also "The Safest Scandinavian" by Kotronias. I *think* his Caro Kann book is good but there are also Jovanka Houska's books. And so on and so forth... the Veresov book is one of his badly received ones.

One thing I would say is that I would only buy an opening book of Lakdawala, no game collection, no stategy book and no endgame book  Grin
  
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Reply #102 - 10/31/19 at 19:15:35
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 10/30/19 at 22:34:33:
Ha! Yes, I guess a dilettante could grasp things very easily, at least Dunning & Kruger said so.


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Reply #101 - 10/31/19 at 16:00:43
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No comments on the chess, but Lakdawala's frankly cringeworthy prose is the type of nonsense you'd only expect to see in self-published literature. Whatever about the author, do they not utilise editors at any of these publishing houses?!
  

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Reply #100 - 10/31/19 at 07:31:55
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RoleyPoley wrote on 10/30/19 at 22:17:52:
... might help him speed up the writing process.

Superficiality also helps. Example from the one and only Lakdawala book I own:



Krug-Tiemann, Dresden 2008.

Even Fritz 5 in a splitsecond finds 14.Nd6!
This is not an incident or accident. In one of his notes IM Lakdawala presents the game Krug-Bracker, Willingen 2006:



and recommends 15.a3, totally missing Nc5! while Fritz 5 again finds it immediately.
This kind of oversights is OK with me in a book on the Veresov. But there is no way I'm going to trust this author when writing about serious openings, as I wrote before.
  

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Reply #99 - 10/30/19 at 22:34:33
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Ha! Yes, I guess a dilettante could grasp things very easily, at least Dunning & Kruger said so.

Google says:
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dil·et·tante
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noun: dilettante; plural noun: dilettantes; plural noun: dilettanti

- a person who cultivates an area of interest, such as the arts, without real commitment or knowledge.

- "a wealthy literary dilettante"

Similar: dabbler potterer tinkerer trifler dallier amateur nonprofessional nonspecialist layman layperson
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Reply #98 - 10/30/19 at 22:17:52
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 10/30/19 at 16:55:43:
ReneDescartes wrote on 10/30/19 at 01:07:52:
A question for my fellow members: Do you trust Lakdawala to be thorough and thoughtful, given the volume of his output?

This is a totally fair question. My opinion is no. Forty-three books so far, and if anything his output is accelerating. I would be interested to follow his working method from start to finish. A lot of it must be purely mechanical.


I think in his interview on the perpetual podcast he said he was a chess dillitant (not sure if that is the correct word - most likely the wrong spelling too!) so he could grasp things very quickly. I think he said that he didnt sleep much because of his back problems so often worked on one book when in bed and another during the day?

Perhaps because a lot of what he writes is based on his own experience with an opening, and his games in particular that might help him speed up the writing process. Also, his chatty style may come naturally to him and not take any time at all to write (and if editors arent stripping it out or sending back for re-writes it doesnt add any delays).
  

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Reply #97 - 10/30/19 at 22:10:17
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 10/30/19 at 20:20:04:
Cyrus is very hard working. He seems to be writing all the time. Yes, his style is... shall we say... quirky — which he attributes to his being autistic.

Where his earliest books edited more than his more recent ones? The 'quirkiness' has increased significantly since the first ones he wrote.
  

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Reply #96 - 10/30/19 at 22:06:12
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 10/30/19 at 21:42:24:
Did he really write that? "Shaky bridge" is totally unrelated to the meaning of the song.


No, I was just attempting to give an example of similar things that he has written, lots of hyperbole and metaphor mixed in with references to politics or popular culture.

I myself could not come up with writing the way that he does, because to use the amount of literary devices that he does when writing instead of just being literal and straightforward is too much for me.
  
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 10/30/19 at 20:33:07:
Instead of writing for example something like, "Black finds himself on a shaky bridge, which reminds me of Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water", ...

Did he really write that? "Shaky bridge" is totally unrelated to the meaning of the song.
  
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 10/30/19 at 20:20:04:
Cyrus is very hard working. He seems to be writing all the time. Yes, his style is... shall we say... quirky — which he attributes to his being autistic.


I myself have Asperger's, but I find his style very hard to read. It is not straightforward to the point, but uses all sorts of literary devices. Instead of writing for example something like, "Black finds himself on a shaky bridge, which reminds me of Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water", it would be easier to just write, "Black is worse in this position."

In any case, I bought the book at a bookstore. The lines are indeed very aggressive, which is unlike his previous books.
  
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Cyrus is very hard working. He seems to be writing all the time. Yes, his style is... shall we say... quirky — which he attributes to his being autistic.
  

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Reply #92 - 10/30/19 at 18:33:53
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I think that this was discussed few times, but his writing style using all sorts of hyperbole and metaphor is seriously annoying to me.

I personally prefer straight to the point, even better if the author writes more robotically.
  
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ReneDescartes wrote on 10/30/19 at 01:07:52:
A question for my fellow members: Do you trust Lakdawala to be thorough and thoughtful, given the volume of his output?

This is a totally fair question. My opinion is no. Forty-three books so far, and if anything his output is accelerating. I would be interested to follow his working method from start to finish. A lot of it must be purely mechanical.
  
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Reply #90 - 10/30/19 at 13:55:34
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His books are decent, like a journalist's articles are decent. But as with journalism, there's always an angle or a hook. Don't expect scientific inquiry. A lot of chess writing starts from the other end. A player does a search for the truth to improve their own game, and when they are done they look around and think -- maybe there's a book here.

I don't like his prose, it's a distraction:
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I long ago abandoned the root of all evil, a craving for complications, but Tony claimed that my opening choices lacked arable land in which to be creative.

My first reaction -- wait, is a craving for complications the root of all evil? Then I realize that the most thought Lakdawala put into it was checking the grammar and spelling, so it's useless trying to extract any deeper meaning from it. He just churns this stuff out. It's possible to cut whole paragraphs from his books without losing any information.

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Reply #89 - 10/30/19 at 12:29:19
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From my own experience, book reviews and comments here, I understand that the quality of Lakdawala's book vary. His books aren't database dumps, though, he puts in some work in the explanations and is engaging. Also, some people are very demanding from chess books, if they find a line missing at a depth of 12 or an obscure move order problem, they disregard the whole work as unreliable.

I believe some of Lakdawala's books are very good for amateur/intermediate players, unless you don't like his prose.

So ... wait for reviews and opinions before buying. These two books are very different, for different audiences.
  
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ReneDescartes wrote on 10/30/19 at 01:07:52:
A question for my fellow members: Do you trust Lackdawala to be thorough and thoughtful, given the volume of his output? How can he put in the effort that an Avrukh or a Rowson put into their first repertoire books?  And if he can't put in that kind of effort, do you think it matters? This is not a rhetorical question; I have doubts which seem partly unfair and fall into a kind of twilight area.


It's not the speed at which he puts me off that makes me doubt his thoroughness, but rather the fact that the books I have seen do have gaps. He is undoubtedly much less thorough that each author you mention.

However, thoroughness is not why I have bought his books: his years of coaching come through, and he anticipates questions and lines which a typical club player might ask.

Most importantly: he covers lines that I'm interested in, often which I don't see covered elsewhere in much detail (see below).

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I have confidence that the lines meet basic professional standards, but I'm not sure how thoughtful or heartfelt the book can be. Also, Lackdawala is a positional player (though one that thinks it's a good idea to mock his own style with self-deprecating charges of cowardice, in terms I find a bit painful to read. Claim forthrightly your belief in what you are, and the sun will enjoy looking at you). How can he catch the spirit of this f3 (and even f4) stuff, even by playing it for a few months?


Lakdawala is a solid IM. He does play positional lines, but has a long career and also played sharp lines in it. I think the I-am-a-boring-positional-player quips are jokes to a certain extent.

In many of his books, they are about lines he has played in the past: e.g. the London, Slav, ...d6 book, Modern, Sveshnikov.

For example, in his Slav book, he covers 6.Ne5 6...Na6, which is off the beaten track, and which he put some time into for his own work.

In his Sveshnikov book, he covers 6...h6, which is again a line he has played in the past, and again shows some originality. There is often some thoughtful stuff in his books.

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Sielecki, on the other hand, like his compatriot Weteschnik, seems to me to be the kind of guy that will throw himself, quixotically, into doing a really great job, giving effort beyond what he could ever be expected to be compensated for, just because of who he is.


Yeah, Sielecki is a class act. I have watched his YouTube channel for many years, and loved the Nimzo book. In particular, the explanations of the Hübner were really first rate. I haven't read any other work of his.

But if I want to play the ...h6 Sveshnikov, isn't Lakdawala more or less my only source? What if I want a recent repertoire book on the Smyslov Caro Kann? Lakdawala was more or less the only option at that time.

Summary: there are gaps in the coverage. But he covers lines that I want to play that aren't receiving coverage elsewhere.
  
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A question for my fellow members: Do you trust Lackdawala to be thorough and thoughtful, given the volume of his output? How can he put in the effort that an Avrukh or a Rowson put into their first repertoire books?  And if he can't put in that kind of effort, do you think it matters? This is not a rhetorical question; I have doubts which seem partly unfair and fall into a kind of twilight area.

I have confidence that the lines meet basic professional standards, but I'm not sure how thoughtful or heartfelt the book can be. Also, Lackdawala is a positional player (though one that thinks it's a good idea to mock his own style with self-deprecating charges of cowardice, in terms I find a bit painful to read. Claim forthrightly your belief in what you are, and the sun will enjoy looking at you). How can he catch the spirit of this f3 (and even f4) stuff, even by playing it for a few months?

Sielecki, on the other hand, like his compatriot Weteschnik, seems to me to be the kind of guy that will throw himself, quixotically, into doing a really great job, giving effort beyond what he could ever be expected to be compensated for, just because of who he is.
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Reply #86 - 10/30/19 at 00:45:45
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Thanks, TNich and VGA.

TNich wrote on 10/28/19 at 23:40:12:
I have both books but haven't studied them in depth.
Lakdawala gives his repertoire in 10 games. I'm not a big fan of his writing style but the analysis looks decent. Probably more than enough to get your repertoire up and running.
Moskalenko gives 16 games. He also has a separate chapter on a typical knight sacrifice. I think he gives multiple ideas in many variations.

If I had to pick one it would be Moskalenko.

I'm not too surprised by that. I have some previous books by both authors and find them a bit variable. But Moskalenko actually plays these lines (and this style) after all.

I have Moska's old material on 4.f3 in Revolutionize Your Chess. Maybe I will just take that and Sopiko Guramishvili's recent Chess24 videos as a starting point for now. I'm really trying to take a break from 1.d4 to expand my horizons with some flank openings anyway.
  

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If you want coverage of specific variations that both books cover, obviously you will go with Moskalenko's book. Lakdawala's book's advantage is that it is a complete repertoire (unless something important is discovered missing)

  
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Stigma wrote on 10/28/19 at 20:14:26:
In particular, which of these books (Moskalenko or Lakdawala) is best for someone who wants to learn the 4.f3 (Kmoch?) Nimzo-Indian?


I have both books but haven't studied them in depth.
Lakdawala gives his repertoire in 10 games. I'm not a big fan of his writing style but the analysis looks decent. Probably more than enough to get your repertoire up and running.
Moskalenko gives 16 games. He also has a separate chapter on a typical knight sacrifice. I think he gives multiple ideas in many variations.

If I had to pick one it would be Moskalenko.
  
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Has anybody bought the Lakdawala book, and is it any good?

I'm interested in many of the lines he covers, especially in the Nimzo-Indian and all the 1.d4 d5 2.c4 stuff. But unsure if Lakdawala managed the task of changing his entire chess personality into sharp attacker and theory hound...

In particular, which of these books (Moskalenko or Lakdawala) is best for someone who wants to learn the 4.f3 (Kmoch?) Nimzo-Indian?
  

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Reply #82 - 10/28/19 at 18:30:14
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Just took a look at Everyman's excerpt pdf from Lakdawala's book, there are some aggressive attacking plans in there, holy crap! Seems uncharacteristic of him.

He admits in the introduction that a lot of memorisation is needed for this sharp repertoire.
  
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Reply #81 - 10/27/19 at 19:56:06
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A repertoire is a repertoire. It has to be complete. Only exception is when just common sense and general opening principles would suffice. I am not saying that it should provide a good line vs. 1.d4 g5, or 1.d4 h6 2.c4 g6 3.Nc3 f6 and so on. But if there is no  chapter on a major defense, in this case the Dutch (but there are other omissions, too, in the book) it should be titled properly.
  
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Reply #80 - 10/27/19 at 19:04:45
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grandpatzer wrote on 10/27/19 at 08:21:55:
Then why don't publishers title these books properly, for example: "A Compendium of original ideas for the 1.d4, 2.c4 Player", rather than advertising them as "repertoire books" in the first place. Of course the "repertoire" title sells, but intellectual honesty should go first. 

That title would provoke backlash against the unoriginality of the Exchange QGD; complainers would also point out since the book provides only one suggestion for each Black defense, it should have been titled a "Repertoire" rather than a "Compendium."  I think persons who are attracted to chess opening theory tend to overemphasize trivial details in real life too, as if a marketing blurb or book title needs the same move-order precision as the POisoned Pawn variation.
  

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Reply #79 - 10/27/19 at 12:24:40
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Well, it is a repertoire book in the sense that it tackles most major openings after d4 c4 and some minor ones. But it isn't a complete repertoire. Also, it offers several ideas so it is a wide repertoire.

So it isn't a book for players who want a book for their "first" repertoire book that will take them by the hand and strictly recommend very specific moves every step of the way and will also cover weird sidelines that they might encounter at the amateur level.

I believe this book is for intermediate players who already play d4 c4 and want an upgrade or fresh middlegame positions without changing openings.

EDIT: Talking about Moskalenko's book. It is sad that we discuss two books in the same thread. Split?
  
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Reply #78 - 10/27/19 at 08:21:55
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VGA wrote on 10/26/19 at 22:49:29:
It is NOT a complete repertoire book. Against the Dutch he says the reader should buy his other book for example. Seriously? Put a little chapter there!


Then why don't publishers title these books properly, for example: "A Compendium of original ideas for the 1.d4, 2.c4 Player", rather than advertising them as "repertoire books" in the first place. Of course the "repertoire" title sells, but intellectual honesty should go first. 
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #77 - 10/26/19 at 22:49:29
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 07/03/19 at 22:53:03:
I have books by him on his flexible French, his older Winawer book, his Pirc/Modern book and Budapest book. My impression was that his style was more in ideas, but not as organised and structured as for example, Awrukh.

How is structure in this repertoire book compare to his previous books ¿

It is NOT a complete repertoire book. Against the Dutch he says the reader should buy his other book for example. Seriously? Put a little chapter there!

This book reminds me of his Diamond Dutch book, it is a collection of ideas and plans for several Black defences. This is a book for people who already play d4 and want to improve their repertoire or add more stuff to it.

He gives little intros to a defence with historical and theoretical information and the main line and then the games follow separately. I like that approach.
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #76 - 07/03/19 at 23:15:04
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@gillbod,

thanks a lot! That's enough detail for me.  Smiley

gillbod wrote on 07/03/19 at 20:26:09:
There is some new material, but not a huge amount. Particularly in that 8...fxe6 line, after 12.Nb5, instead of following up with 13.Qb3 as Moskalenko did in the old analysis (which he also provides here), he also provides some extra options with 13.fxe5.

Just one comment: This assumes 12.Nb5 e5 is the critical line, but there's also 12...Ne8, which I think I would prefer if I got this position as Black. I like keeping options open with the central pawns when I can, and White hasn't done all that well against ...Ne8 it in practice.
  

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I have books by him on his flexible French, his older Winawer book, his Pirc/Modern book and Budapest book. My impression was that his style was more in ideas, but not as organised and structured as for example, Awrukh.

How is structure in this repertoire book compare to his previous books ¿
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #74 - 07/03/19 at 20:26:09
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Stigma wrote on 07/02/19 at 23:11:51:
Since you seem to have both these Moskalenko books, does the section on 8.dxe6 fxe6 in his KID main line look like it's been updated much?
9.Bd3 Nc6 10.0-0 Nd4 11.Nxd4 cxd4 12.Nb5 used to be the main line, but I think Black is fine. White has alternatives like 11.Bd2 or 11.Qe1, but I'm not sure they achieve much. For one thing Black can play ...Nh5 against several White move orders.


There is some new material, but not a huge amount. Particularly in that 8...fxe6 line, after 12.Nb5, instead of following up with 13.Qb3 as Moskalenko did in the old analysis (which he also provides here), he also provides some extra options with 13.fxe5.

Stigma wrote on 07/02/19 at 23:11:51:
After 5.Bd2 Bg7 6.e4 Nb6 7.Be3 0-0, is Moskalenko sticking with his trademark 8.f4!? I've seen theory indicating after 8...Nc6 9.d5 Na5 it leads to a forced draw with best play. There is also the almost unknown 8.f4 c5!?, which Larry Kaufman has claimed is at least equal for Black.

I think I saw a Moskalenko game with the calmer 8.h3 instead, so maybe he has switched.


He does cover 8.f4, and tries to give ways to avoid the draw after 8...Nc6 9.d5 Na5 as far as I can see. The analysis of alternatives comes relatively deep into the lines, so I don't feel that it's fair to share that level of detail here out of respect to the publisher.

In addition, to 8.f4, coverage is also given to 8.Be2, 8.Bb5 and 8.h3.

It really is a book with a lot of options for white. I get the impression that Moskalenko just went through his personal opening files and decided to polish some selected lines and make a book out of it.

I've been enjoying it so far; he does have a good knack for explanation, and I like the line selection.
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #73 - 07/03/19 at 16:16:29
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Whilst I like many of the lines being presented in this book the question for me is are the majority of games Moskalenko is using to support the repertoire up-to -date (e.g played within the last couple of years)?
  
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The only line that could be critical for Black is where White setup weird Stonewall structure. I think that that was line 5. Ad2 Cb6 6. e3 Ag7 7. f4!? where it can get very sharp. But of course Black can avoid this completely with simple 5...Ag7 Cheesy

I wouldn't say 5...Bg7 is simple. Maybe if Black meets 6.e4 with 6...Nxc3, but even there White can get attacking chances. 5...Bg7 6.e4 Nb6 is naturally complex since all eight minor pieces are still on the board.

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 07/03/19 at 04:30:40:
I was expecting something crazy against Grünfeld, like 5. h4. 3. f3 would be a choice for aggressive, but since he gives Four Prawns against KID he cannot recommend it for transposition problems.

Moskalenko is recommending mostly the same lines he has been playing and recommending for years, decades even. So I'm not so surprised. The biggest change may be the Exchange Slav. I believe at the time of Revolutionize Your Chess he wanted to play into Semi-Slav main lines - at least the book had some coverage of the Botvinnik Semi-Slav.
  

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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #71 - 07/03/19 at 04:30:40
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5. Ad2 in Grünfeld looks like one of those "surprise" lines, at least my impression is to use it only rarely to surprise opponent rather than regular line. Such as when Anand played it against Carlsen in 1th World Championchip game in 2015.

The only line that could be critical for Black is where White setup weird Stonewall structure. I think that that was line 5. Ad2 Cb6 6. e3 Ag7 7. f4!? where it can get very sharp. But of course Black can avoid this completely with simple 5...Ag7 Cheesy

I was expecting something crazy against Grünfeld, like 5. h4. 3. f3 would be a choice for aggressive, but since he gives Four Prawns against KID he cannot recommend it for transposition problems.
  
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gillbod wrote on 07/02/19 at 21:52:02:
1) The KID and Nimzo chapters are to a large part recycled from previous Moskalenko work. Perhaps some new stuff has been added. There is certainly some material that has been cut compared to Revolutionize your Chess.

Since you seem to have both these Moskalenko books, does the section on 8.dxe6 fxe6 in his KID main line look like it's been updated much?
9.Bd3 Nc6 10.0-0 Nd4 11.Nxd4 cxd4 12.Nb5 used to be the main line, but I think Black is fine. White has alternatives like 11.Bd2 or 11.Qe1, but I'm not sure they achieve much. For one thing Black can play ...Nh5 against several White move orders.

gillbod wrote on 07/02/19 at 21:52:02:
Against the Grunfeld, 5.Bd2 is the recommendation, but Moskalenko gives multiple plans for white, e.g. after 5...Nb6 6.Nf3, 6.Bf4, 6.Bg5, are covered. As well as 6.e3 followed by 7.Nf3 or 7.f4.

After 5.Bd2 Bg7 6.e4 Nb6 7.Be3 0-0, is Moskalenko sticking with his trademark 8.f4!? I've seen theory indicating after 8...Nc6 9.d5 Na5 it leads to a forced draw with best play. There is also the almost unknown 8.f4 c5!?, which Larry Kaufman has claimed is at least equal for Black.

I think I saw a Moskalenko game with the calmer 8.h3 instead, so maybe he has switched.
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Reply #69 - 07/02/19 at 22:01:04
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gillbod wrote on 07/02/19 at 21:52:02:
I picked up the Forward Chess version.

It's more or less what I was expecting from reading the preview.

Quick points:

1) The KID and Nimzo chapters are to a large part recycled from previous Moskalenko work. Perhaps some new stuff has been added. There is certainly some material that has been cut compared to Revolutionize your Chess.

2)  As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, it's not a repertoire book. E.g. gaps in coverage against the Dutch, what do do against 1...e6 1...g6 and 1...d6. It's certainly a foundation for a repertoire. Perhaps mainly useful for existing white d4 players looking to broaden their horizons.

3) Furthermore from 2, there are often several options given within each line. E.g. both the Saemisch (with classical e3 set ups) and f3 in the Nimzo. Against the Grunfeld, 5.Bd2 is the recommendation, but Moskalenko gives multiple plans for white, e.g. after 5...Nb6 6.Nf3, 6.Bf4, 6.Bg5, are covered. As well as 6.e3 followed by 7.Nf3 or 7.f4.

Against the Queens Gambit Accepted, again several options for white are given e.g. 1.d4 d5 2.c4 cxd4 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.0-0 a6 and now 7.Bd3, 7.b3, 7.Bb3, 7.a4 get a game of analysis each. Also 3.e3 Nf6 4.Bxc4 a6 5.Qe2 is given a game.

4) I can imagine that some buyers might not count the recommendations against the Slav (exchange) and the Semi Slav Triangle (Marshall Gambit, but with 6.Nc3 like Carlsen-Anand 2013 World Championship match) as aggressive. Particularly in the Triangle where finding sharp stuff is easier than finding quiet stuff! That he didn't choose to do so is perfectly fine by me, but it might not be to everyone's taste.

As an aside, the repertoire complements the old Keene + Jacob's Opening Repertoire for White very nicely. E.g. similar structures in the Nimzo, but different move orders (so the white player could choose between 4.a3 4.f3 and 4.e3). Benoni Flick Knife is covered, but with different plans. King side hacks against the KID where possible, but with queenside play likely if Black knows their theory. Gruenfeld plans which avoid the standard c3 d4 e4 pawn centre. Exchange Slav, but one with an early Nf3 and the other without. It's quite nice as a combination: thematic overlap, but different lines.

Other lines that I haven't mentioned above: Qc2 against the Benko. f3 exchange plans against he QGD (I've not looked at these chapters yet, only eyeballed them).

Some might not like that this is not a complete repertoire, and that it opts for some breadth of analysis over depth. But I will find some material in here to incorporate into my own play, so I'm happy.


Thank you so much gillbod. Well, I know a few "complete repertoires" who give just a few superficial lines against some defences, just to say "OK, we covered that", and although I would have liked this book to be a complete repertoire, I appreciate the Author's honesty in completely omitting what he hasn't covered. This said, I am really curious about this book.

  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #68 - 07/02/19 at 21:52:02
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I picked up the Forward Chess version.

It's more or less what I was expecting from reading the preview.

Quick points:

1) The KID and Nimzo chapters are to a large part recycled from previous Moskalenko work. Perhaps some new stuff has been added. There is certainly some material that has been cut compared to Revolutionize your Chess.

2)  As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, it's not a repertoire book. E.g. gaps in coverage against the Dutch, what do do against 1...e6 1...g6 and 1...d6. It's certainly a foundation for a repertoire. Perhaps mainly useful for existing white d4 players looking to broaden their horizons.

3) Furthermore from 2, there are often several options given within each line. E.g. both the Saemisch (with classical e3 set ups) and f3 in the Nimzo. Against the Grunfeld, 5.Bd2 is the recommendation, but Moskalenko gives multiple plans for white, e.g. after 5...Nb6 6.Nf3, 6.Bf4, 6.Bg5, are covered. As well as 6.e3 followed by 7.Nf3 or 7.f4.

Against the Queens Gambit Accepted, again several options for white are given e.g. 1.d4 d5 2.c4 cxd4 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.0-0 a6 and now 7.Bd3, 7.b3, 7.Bb3, 7.a4 get a game of analysis each. Also 3.e3 Nf6 4.Bxc4 a6 5.Qe2 is given a game.

4) I can imagine that some buyers might not count the recommendations against the Slav (exchange) and the Semi Slav Triangle (Marshall Gambit, but with 6.Nc3 like Carlsen-Anand 2013 World Championship match) as aggressive. Particularly in the Triangle where finding sharp stuff is easier than finding quiet stuff! That he didn't choose to do so is perfectly fine by me, but it might not be to everyone's taste.

As an aside, the repertoire complements the old Keene + Jacob's Opening Repertoire for White very nicely. E.g. similar structures in the Nimzo, but different move orders (so the white player could choose between 4.a3 4.f3 and 4.e3). Benoni Flick Knife is covered, but with different plans. King side hacks against the KID where possible, but with queenside play likely if Black knows their theory. Gruenfeld plans which avoid the standard c3 d4 e4 pawn centre. Exchange Slav, but one with an early Nf3 and the other without. It's quite nice as a combination: thematic overlap, but different lines.

Other lines that I haven't mentioned above: Qc2 against the Benko. f3 exchange plans against he QGD (I've not looked at these chapters yet, only eyeballed them).

Some might not like that this is not a complete repertoire, and that it opts for some breadth of analysis over depth. But I will find some material in here to incorporate into my own play, so I'm happy.
  
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Reply #67 - 07/02/19 at 20:54:12
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grandpatzer wrote on 07/02/19 at 19:05:47:
From an email I got from New in Chess, the line vs. the Grunfeld is the early Bd2 line, and the Botvinnik plan of f3-e4 in the Exchange QGD


Thanks grandpatzer...

5 Bd2 used to be popular when I was in my teens and that was a good few years ago!
  
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Dink Heckler wrote on 07/02/19 at 10:25:47:
Moskalenko's choice of the Exchange Slav in an ostensibly 'go for the throat' repertoire certainly raises some eyebrows. Stylistic consistency is a bit over-rated, but nevertheless, this choice does stand out a bit.


Perhaps is the "early Bf4", without Nf3, Exchange Slav?
From an email I got from New in Chess, the line vs. the Grunfeld is the early Bd2 line, and the Botvinnik plan of f3-e4 in the Exchange QGD.
  
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Moskalenko's choice of the Exchange Slav in an ostensibly 'go for the throat' repertoire certainly raises some eyebrows. Stylistic consistency is a bit over-rated, but nevertheless, this choice does stand out a bit.
  

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MW wrote on 06/28/19 at 19:22:15:
Would be interested to know what he is recommending against the Grunfeld and whether he prefers short or long castling in the QGD exchange variation?

   


Sure, anything that can be shared with Author’s and Publisher’s consent would be appreciated. I plan to buy the book, so some sort of preview would be great for me.
  
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grandpatzer wrote on 06/28/19 at 14:47:49:
Now Moskalenko's book is available, too, from New In Chess, and very soon other sellers, I suppose. If you have it, a short review would be appreciated


Would be interested to know what he is recommending against the Grunfeld and whether he prefers short or long castling in the QGD exchange variation?

  
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Now Moskalenko's book is available, too, from New In Chess, and very soon other sellers, I suppose. If you have it, a short review would be appreciated.
  
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Stigma wrote on 06/26/19 at 03:21:13:
Paddy wrote on 06/25/19 at 10:06:40:
If I buy it on the FC website at the attractively discounted price, it's then not clear to me how I can view it in the app on my IPad.

Any clues, anyone? Thanks in advance.

I have only used the Android app, but if we assume the iPad app is very similar:

- Make sure you have the same account connected to the website and the app, using the 'Forward Chess Cloud' system (that I don't actually remember how to set up, but you only do it once and I believe it's explained on the FC website)

- Buy a book on the website

- Go to the 'Store' tab in the app on your iPad

- Press 'View Complete List' or the button for the publisher of the specific book. You should see a button with 'Buy' or the price next to each book

- For books you have purchased, the button should say 'Download' instead of the price. Press it, and you have the book.


Many thanks - I'll give it a try later this week - playing in a tournament at the moment!
  
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Paddy wrote on 06/25/19 at 10:06:40:
If I buy it on the FC website at the attractively discounted price, it's then not clear to me how I can view it in the app on my IPad.

Any clues, anyone? Thanks in advance.

I have only used the Android app, but if we assume the iPad app is very similar:

- Make sure you have the same account connected to the website and the app, using the 'Forward Chess Cloud' system (that I don't actually remember how to set up, but you only do it once and I believe it's explained on the FC website)

- Buy a book on the website

- Go to the 'Store' tab in the app on your iPad

- Press 'View Complete List' or the button for the publisher of the specific book. You should see a button with 'Buy' or the price next to each book

- For books you have purchased, the button should say 'Download' instead of the price. Press it, and you have the book.
  

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Stigma wrote on 06/23/19 at 21:59:13:
Paddy wrote on 06/23/19 at 19:08:02:
If I buy it at a discount at the Forward Chess website, will it show up in the app on my Ipad?

Seems daft otherwise!


Yes, I believe the point of buying from the website instead of from within an app is site buys are platform-independent - once you've purchased them there you can download them to iOS apps, Android apps and a Windows PC program. Though there's a limit on total number of devices you can have a book on. Four maybe?

Everything I've bought directly from the site I have in both Windows and on my Android phone (no iPhones or iPads here yet). While everything I bought directly in the Android app before they came up with this solution is apparently locked into Android-only forever.

For me the prices I get on the website are also a bit lower than in the Android app, not due to the introductory discounts but for all prices. I don't know if it's that way for everybody, I wouldn't be surprised if there are differences between countries here. But for me bying FC books via the website is a no-brainer really.


If I buy it on the FC website at the attractively discounted price, it's then not clear to me how I can view it in the app on my IPad.

Any clues, anyone? Thanks in advance.
  
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Reply #58 - 06/23/19 at 22:24:33
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Anyone who's familiar with Moskalenko's writings knows the Four pawns' attack is "his" King's Indian weapon, and especially the dxe6 lines when Black goes for ...c5 and ...e6. So it's not a huge surprise that he sticks to his guns.

Though I actually had the impression they had been pretty much defanged since he covered them in Revolutionize Your Chess (2009). Does he have improments that make them viable again? Or has he finally swtched to Four Pawns' Attack main lines? I realize my curiosity will force me to buy this book...

Searching a not-very-up-to-date database, the most recent game I find with Moskalenko playing "his" 4PA against the KID is from 2013. But he seems to throw in lots of different White openings these days - everything from Tromps and Londons to 1.c4 and 1.e4 in addition to his trademark sharp 1.d4 lines. I don't know if he's always done that or he felt a need to be less predictable after he started publishing his opening ideas in popular books.
  

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Paddy wrote on 06/23/19 at 19:08:02:
If I buy it at a discount at the Forward Chess website, will it show up in the app on my Ipad?

Seems daft otherwise!


Yes, I believe the point of buying from the website instead of from within an app is site buys are platform-independent - once you've purchased them there you can download them to iOS apps, Android apps and a Windows PC program. Though there's a limit on total number of devices you can have a book on. Four maybe?

Everything I've bought directly from the site I have in both Windows and on my Android phone (no iPhones or iPads here yet). While everything I bought directly in the Android app before they came up with this solution is apparently locked into Android-only forever.

For me the prices I get on the website are also a bit lower than in the Android app, not due to the introductory discounts but for all prices. I don't know if it's that way for everybody, I wouldn't be surprised if there are differences between countries here. But for me bying FC books via the website is a no-brainer really.
  

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gillbod wrote on 06/23/19 at 11:40:53:
Apparently it’s available via forward chess? Not through the app,  it’s shown as available on the forward chess website.

Personally, I see the four pawns as a good weapon. Both sides are required to know some stuff, so familiarity and experience matters a lot. I think white can expect to face the KID more often than black KID players face the 4 pawns. Especially Moskalenko’s version (at least the one from his earlier book) where he avoids the standard Benoni structures.


Yes, definitely available at forward chess and at a discounted price. 


If I buy it at a discount at the Forward Chess website, will it show up in the app on my Ipad?

Seems daft otherwise!

  
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gillbod wrote on 06/23/19 at 11:40:53:
Apparently it’s available via forward chess? Not through the app,  it’s shown as available on the forward chess website.

Personally, I see the four pawns as a good weapon. Both sides are required to know some stuff, so familiarity and experience matters a lot. I think white can expect to face the KID more often than black KID players face the 4 pawns. Especially Moskalenko’s version (at least the one from his earlier book) where he avoids the standard Benoni structures.


Yes, definitely available at forward chess and at a discounted price.
  
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Apparently it’s available via forward chess? Not through the app,  it’s shown as available on the forward chess website.

Personally, I see the four pawns as a good weapon. Both sides are required to know some stuff, so familiarity and experience matters a lot. I think white can expect to face the KID more often than black KID players face the 4 pawns. Especially Moskalenko’s version (at least the one from his earlier book) where he avoids the standard Benoni structures.
  
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Now says 28 June release on New in Chess website.

Excerpt: https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9075.pdf

It looks interesting, even though I prefer fianchetto slow type system like Sielicki's book rather than these lines.

I noticed that many aggressive 1. d4 repertoire book usually recommends some sort of Sämisch against Nimzo. No other way to attack against Nimzo-Indian I guess ¿  Cheesy

I really would not play Four Prawns against KID though. Way too loosening in my opinion. I was expecting a Sämisch with f3 setup against KID.
  
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 06/11/19 at 22:29:29:
41€ is 70$ ¿ Is this AUD ¿ Surely USD and CAD cannot be that low on the exchange rate


New Zealand dollars....the AUD would not be much different....
  
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3/The book is 29,95 Euro, then the publisher wants to add another 11,00 Euro postage which makes the book around $70.00 in my money. For that I want to be sure I'm not buying a lemon and I'm afraid the sample pages don't tell me enough to make that call.


41€ is 70$ ¿ Is this AUD ¿ Surely USD and CAD cannot be that low on the exchange rate  Cheesy

Personally on instinct, although I cannot see the detailed lines in either this book nor Moskalenko, I tend to trust latter more. Actually in this case both authors have a unique writing style, but Moskalenko is less annoying, in my view.
  
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Let's hope that he has new ideas for White in the Slav Exchange, otherwise frankly I don't understand his decision to suggest it. It seems to me that most repertoires are "forgetting" to include a line vs. 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 dxc4, which seems a beginner's move, but is actually a very tricky line. Anyway, I will probably buy it, because I like the introductory parts with the main ideas, history, etc.
  
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Undecided as too weather or not I will buy this book....whilst the actual repertoire variations look interesting and would compliment the lines I already play my reservations are as follows:

1/The only way I am able to buy the book is online as there are no chess book stockist in my country...hence I can't browse the book before buying to better establish what is in it and how up-to-date it is...

2/The index offered in the sample pages doesn't really tell me much about the actual variations...IMO a number of publishers need to do better in this area. I think Chess Stars do a good job of informing the buyer, whilst not giving everything away.

3/The book is 29,95 Euro, then the publisher wants to add another 11,00 Euro postage which makes the book around $70.00 in my money. For that I want to be sure I'm not buying a lemon and I'm afraid the sample pages don't tell me enough to make that call.

Option Amazon (who do a good "look inside" and will cost around $50). This means I have to wait a few months plus I understand that they drive a pretty hard bargain which means less for the publisher and author, which I don't think is a good outcome.
  
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All in all, this looks like a similarish repertoire to the old Keene/Jacobs repertoire for white. Broadly speaking, that is.

The Benoni chapter looks interesting. The Be2+Bd2 stuff in the Flick Knife Benoni is new to me.

I’m not sure there’s enough in the book to tempt me. I already have Revolutionize your Chess, which contains the same lines against the Nimzo and KID. The suggestion against the QGD looks standard and well covered by other sources. The Dutch isn’t covered.

The only thing that might tempt me is if the chapters on the Gruenfeld and Slav are particularly original and thought provoking. There’s no info on this from the sample pages, alas.

  
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Regarding the Moskalenko repertoire, how is the Slav Exchange an "ambitious idea"?

It's also somewhat unpleasant that he refers to his other book for the Dutch. Not truly a complete repertoire.


I didn’t even notice that! Also couldn’t find anything on the Budapest, unless the Indo-Benoni covers it, whatever that might be. Unless that’s a ‘refer to my Budapest book’ job as well.

Each opening looks like a few pages of theory with the bulk of the book being annotated games. I think I’ll pass on this. The Sielecki book is more my thing.
  
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Regarding the Moskalenko repertoire, how is the Slav Exchange an "ambitious idea"?

It's also somewhat unpleasant that he refers to his other book for the Dutch. Not truly a complete repertoire.
  
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Mtal wrote on 06/09/19 at 00:07:05:
Anyone know what the Moskalenko rep is?


No idea, but I’d imagine it’ll be quite aggressive, with a liberal use of the f-pawn. I don’t have the book, but memory tells me he covered f3 setups in the Nimzo and the Four Pawns against the King’s Indian in one of his earlier books.

Just speculation of course, I might be completely wrong. I just can’t see Moskalenko recommending anything else. 


Quoting myself!

Well what timing! The sample pages are now up on NIC https://www.newinchess.com/an-attacking-repertoire-for-white-with-1-d4. Looks like I was right! f3/f4 systems abound Cheesy
  
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Mtal wrote on 06/09/19 at 00:07:05:
Anyone know what the Moskalenko rep is?


No idea, but I’d imagine it’ll be quite aggressive, with a liberal use of the f-pawn. I don’t have the book, but memory tells me he covered f3 setups in the Nimzo and the Four Pawns against the King’s Indian in one of his earlier books.

Just speculation of course, I might be completely wrong. I just can’t see Moskalenko recommending anything else.
  
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My bad you can by it but it is saying july.
  
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It looks like Amazon has it as available.
  
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I notice that Peter Boel of NIC wrote on May 27 that the Moskalenko book will be released in a few weeks.
  
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Anyone know what the Moskalenko rep is?
  
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Anyone has the Lakdawala book by now?
  
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At this point we have to suppose that there is going to be some delay...
  
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A bit strange since on New in Chess website, says publishes this Wednesday  Shocked

https://www.newinchess.com/an-attacking-repertoire-for-white-with-1-d4


Let's see who is right...  Cool
  
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By the way, Schachversand recently had the Moskalenko book as coming this week, but now they have changed it to early July.


A bit strange since on New in Chess website, says publishes this Wednesday  Shocked

https://www.newinchess.com/an-attacking-repertoire-for-white-with-1-d4
  
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By the way, Schachversand recently had the Moskalenko book as coming this week, but now they have changed it to early July.
  
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I checked his line vs the Nimzo against Sielecki's repertoire:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. f3 c5 5. d5 O-O 6. e4 d6 7. Nge2 b5 8. Ng3
bxc4 9. Bxc4 Qa5 10. Bd2 Ba6

And now he improves with:

11. a3 Bxc4 12. axb4 Qxb4 13. Ra4 Qb3 14. Qxb3 Bxb3 15. Ra3 Bc4

Unfortunately 12 .. Qxb4 appears to be just bad, and something like Qc7 is better.

It looks like it doesn't cover Roiz's line (d5 d6 e4 b5) at all.

Against the Benko I see:

1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 b5 4. cxb5 a6 5. f3 axb5 6. e4 Qa5+ 7. Bd2 b4 8. Na3
d6 9. Nc4 Qd8 10. Bd3 e6 11. dxe6 Bxe6 12. Ne2

He gives d5 here, I have Nc6 in my repertoire but Be7 is maybe even better. In any case let's see how we refute d5, which is the most common move:

exd5 Nxd5 14. O-O Be7

He says this is better for white due to the weak c4 square, lead in development and the potential passer on the a file. The Bd2 and Ne2 don't look so hot to me though.

15. Qc2 Nc6 16. Be4 and now he gives Rc8 which is probably bad.

Most Benko players would be happy to get this on the board, I think.
  
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FYI, the Lakdawala book is now out on PGN.
  
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Ah! The black queen is missing from my PGN because I copied it from the Everyman PGN. No wonder it wasn’t in my database.

Thanks a lot kylemeister!
  
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gillbod wrote on 03/20/19 at 11:59:58:
i'm quite looking forward to the Moskalenko repertoire. i went through his book 'Revolutionize Your Chess' in a bit of detail.

his chapters on the Nimzo and 4 Pawns KID were nicely done, and i remember thinking that it would be great if he did a whole repertoire along the same lines. hopefully this is that book.

The new Moskalenko cover is rad - imo, the best chessbook cover in quite some time.
  

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thanks kylemeister. I tried to answer but I got the moves wrong anyway. I saw your answer and was able to quickly delete my post. Everyman's pdf sample correctly has a black queen on d8. Their pgn sample is missing the black queen.
  
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1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 c6 5. e3 Nbd7 6. Bd3 dc 7. Bxc4 b5 8. Bd3 Bb7 9. e4 b4 10. Na4 c5 11. e5 Nd5 12. 0-0 cd 13. Nxd4 Nxe5 14. Bb5+ Nd7 15. Re1 Rc8 16. b3 (16. Qh5 is an old book move).
  
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In the PDF introduction to Lakdawala's book, he gives the following position from the Meran Semi-Slav a digram. Does anyone know how this position arises?

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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 03/22/19 at 12:03:48:
MNb, I agree with your post except for two small things.

MNb wrote on 03/22/19 at 10:14:30:
... 100 ELO points (who cares about it anyway, except you yourself?!) ...
The opponent also cares about the 100 Elo.

I do care a bit about those 100 points, as they would put me on the brink of the FM title... and probably clinch it eventually by a random tournament overperformance.

an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 03/22/19 at 12:03:48:
MNb wrote on 03/22/19 at 10:14:30:
... it's typical for amateurs to perform better in positions they like ...
This can become complicated. It's typical for amateurs to stick with an opening that is not serving them well simply because they like it.

Among the many different ways to do this, one approach I've seen many times is improving players sticking to a limited repertoire while reaching for the FM and IM titles, maybe just discarding some dubious openings on the way. But then if they're going for the GM title, most people branch out to be less predictable.

Which makes me think as long as I limit my (Dutch) Leningrad adventures there's no pressing need to master the Nimzo-Indian at this point. Though being bad at IQP positions may well be seen as a fundamental flaw, so studying them and mixing in some openings that feature them is still a good idea in general.
  

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MNb, I agree with your post except for two small things.

MNb wrote on 03/22/19 at 10:14:30:
... 100 ELO points (who cares about it anyway, except you yourself?!) ...
The opponent also cares about the 100 Elo.

MNb wrote on 03/22/19 at 10:14:30:
... it's typical for amateurs to perform better in positions they like ...
This can become complicated. It's typical for amateurs to stick with an opening that is not serving them well simply because they like it.

Of course amateurs should keep the enjoyment in chess. But fun is such an individual thing. I find winning more fun than losing, as do most players. But for me, analyzing afterwards (win or lose) is actually even more fun than playing. My friends joke about this, that's their fun. In terms of study I enjoy learning something new, it could be an opening, and I enjoy it even more when I can use my new knowledge to win a game.
  
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Stigma wrote on 03/21/19 at 23:23:29:
The right thing to do is of course to learn these position types instead of running away from them.

If you're a professional, yes. If your most important goal is to get a rating as high as possible, yes. Otherwise it might be the wrong thing to do.

Stigma wrote on 03/21/19 at 23:23:29:
But when I can play fianchetto-based defences instead and get both interesting, unbalanced positions and good results, sticking with the Nimzo would involve a sacrifice of short-term results for (hopefully) long-term gains.

An eternal discussion.
Sacrificing fun on the short term for long-term gains you don't seem to enjoy that much either doesn't sound like a smart deal in my ears. Sacrifing 100 ELO points (who cares about it anyway, except you yourself?!) for years of chess pleasure is a much better deal, don't you think? And it's even questionable if you do sacrifice those ELO points, because it's typical for amateurs to perform better in positions they like - even in the long term.
In corr. chess i've 5/8 with 4.e3 (exclusively as White). That's unsurprising, given our very different preferences.
  

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kylemeister wrote on 03/21/19 at 20:46:11:
(One thing that always tends to remind me of is a bit from Larsen from ~45 years ago, approximately:  "Botvinnik likes it and plays it.  So does Gligoric!  I see an isolated pawn and a hole in the white position at b4.  I see no initiative, but maybe White can draw with a quick d5.")
Yes, a good quote, almost exact.

Quote:
Gligoric likes it and plays it. So did Botvinnik, and Rubinstein! I see the isolated d-Pawn and a hole in the White position on the Queenside. I see no initiative, but maybe White can draw with a quick d4-d5.

Back in the day next to that quote I penciled in the names of famous players on the white side of 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dxc4 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.O-O a6 7.a4. Quoting myself here...

Quote:
also played by Portisch, Petrosian!, Karpov!, Spassky, Browne (badly), Polugaevsky, Geller, etc.
ECO quotes Larsen - Spassky, Leiden 1970.
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1128857
Larsen didn't play d4-d5.

Nowadays we can add other famous names to that list. Half a lifetime ago, a young master at my club asked for my advice on a replacement for his tattered King's Indian. I advised the QGA, and we played some training games in this very line. Later in a tournament after one of his QGAs, I asked him if there were any other lines that were bothering him. He said no, everybody plays 7.a4. True then; but having recently taken up this opening myself, I now face a variety of 7.Bb3, 7.Bd3, 7.b3, etc., not to mention 3.e4, 4.Qa4+, and what-not.
  
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That's a weird coincidence - i was in a chess book shop this afternoon and that was one of three books i picked up to have a look and that was the part that i was reading! Smiley


Ha!

From a bit in the sample I presume it includes the game Benko-Filip, Hoogovens 1970, involving 1.d4 d5 2.c4 dc 3.Nf3 Nf6 4.e3 e6 5.Bxc4 c5 6.O-O a6 7.a4 Nc6 8.Qe2 cd 9.Rd1 Be7 10.ed O-O 11.Nc3 Nb4 12.Ne5 Nbd5(?!).
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My least favorite Nimzo-Indian line is 4.e3. I think I have something like 0/6 in it - and half of those games were with White! The positions are just a bit too quiet for my taste, and when they do heat up it's often in an IQP scenario, which is not my cup of tea either. I've never felt comfortable on either side of the IQP.

The right thing to do is of course to learn these position types instead of running away from them. But when I can play fianchetto-based defences instead and get both interesting, unbalanced positions and good results, sticking with the Nimzo would involve a sacrifice of short-term results for (hopefully) long-term gains.
  

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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #21 - 03/21/19 at 22:56:54
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ReneDescartes wrote on 03/06/19 at 19:14:15:
Well, a positional game against the KID is one thing. But it's pretty hard to know what a Nimzo player will find uncomfortable. The Nimzo is so huge that practically its only unifying feature is that it's unbalanced. You can find nearly anything in it except a road to dead symmetry--or a theoretical advantage. There are a lot of really tactical lines, a lot of classical lines, a lot of closed lines, etc. Now, 4.f3 O-O 5.e4 d5 6.e5, with a French-ish structure where Black is ahead in development, is hardly going to discomfit strategic players. Probably the least-favorite variation varies from player to player. Maybe it's better in this case to create something that you do like and understand well.


As a Nimzo player I do not mind tactical positions, but generally I do not go looking for lunacy in the opening if it is not necessary. That is what the Modern Benoni, KID, Semi-Slaw and others are for  Cheesy
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #20 - 03/21/19 at 22:49:11
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kylemeister wrote on 03/21/19 at 20:46:11:
Lakdawala: 
https://everymanchess.com/collections/new-paperback-books/products/opening-reper...

I notice that against the QGA he goes with 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. 0-0 a6 7. a4.  (One thing that always tends to remind me of is a bit from Larsen from ~45 years ago, approximately:  "Botvinnik likes it and plays it.  So does Gligoric!  I see an isolated pawn and a hole in the white position at b4.  I see no initiative, but maybe White can draw with a quick d5.")

That's a weird coincidence - i was in a chess book shop this afternoon and that was one of three books i picked up to have a look and that was the part that i was reading! Smiley
  

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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #19 - 03/21/19 at 20:46:11
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https://everymanchess.com/collections/new-paperback-books/products/opening-reper...

I notice that against the QGA he goes with 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. 0-0 a6 7. a4.  (One thing that always tends to remind me of is a bit from Larsen from ~45 years ago, approximately:  "Botvinnik likes it and plays it.  So does Gligoric!  I see an isolated pawn and a hole in the white position at b4.  I see no initiative, but maybe White can draw with a quick d5.")
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #18 - 03/20/19 at 11:59:58
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i'm quite looking forward to the Moskalenko repertoire. i went through his book 'Revolutionize Your Chess' in a bit of detail.

his chapters on the Nimzo and 4 Pawns KID were nicely done, and i remember thinking that it would be great if he did a whole repertoire along the same lines. hopefully this is that book.
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #17 - 03/06/19 at 19:14:15
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 02/22/19 at 06:23:09:
kylemeister wrote on 02/21/19 at 18:23:13:
Actually two DVDs ...which don't include the KID and Gruenfeld (against which he did a "solid and safe" DVD several years ago).


So "Attacking Repertoire with 1.d4" but "Solid and Safe" against KID and Grünfeld ¿

Well it could go well with repertoire book of same type of big contrasts 4. f3 against Nimzo, yet Петросян against KID  Cheesy

I just bought the Pert DVD on the fianchetto defenses, and it's really good--it complements Wojo's Weapons Vol. 2 very well, and shares many of the same lines. Pert sometimes goes even farther than Ippolito/Hilton on the use of neutralizing variations: he allows White to avoid nearly all positions with the classic KID pawn center adn c5 vs. ...f5 breaks. But he also gives more detailed theory on the main ...Nbd7 lines.

Well, a positional game against the KID is one thing. But it's pretty hard to know what a Nimzo player will find uncomfortable. The Nimzo is so huge that practically its only unifying feature is that it's unbalanced. You can find nearly anything in it except a road to dead symmetry--or a theoretical advantage. There are a lot of really tactical lines, a lot of classical lines, a lot of closed lines, etc. Now, 4.f3 O-O 5.e4 d5 6.e5, with a French-ish structure where Black is ahead in development, is hardly going to discomfit strategic players. Probably the least-favorite variation varies from player to player. Maybe it's better in this case to create something that you do like and understand well.

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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #16 - 03/06/19 at 18:11:37
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I am pretty happy with both authors so I will get both. I wish there was some more info on what moskalenko has in his. Oh i saw what pert has in his DVD and being a d4 player, was not sold on it being so attaching for some reason, he did have some lines I liked so will probably get it down the road. Also have to see what the one on the kid and grunfeld are on. He is a great presenter though. Simon Williams did a very aggressive d4 rep also which I kije, just have not had time to look at all of it yet.
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #15 - 02/22/19 at 18:02:23
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 02/22/19 at 06:23:09:
kylemeister wrote on 02/21/19 at 18:23:13:
Actually two DVDs ...which don't include the KID and Gruenfeld (against which he did a "solid and safe" DVD several years ago).


So "Attacking Repertoire with 1.d4" but "Solid and Safe" against KID and Grünfeld ¿

Well it could go well with repertoire book of same type of big contrasts 4. f3 against Nimzo, yet Петросян against KID  Cheesy

There is something to be said in playing quieter openings against aggressive players/systems and vice versa.
  

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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
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kylemeister wrote on 02/21/19 at 18:23:13:
Actually two DVDs ...which don't include the KID and Gruenfeld (against which he did a "solid and safe" DVD several years ago).


So "Attacking Repertoire with 1.d4" but "Solid and Safe" against KID and Grünfeld ¿

Well it could go well with repertoire book of same type of big contrasts 4. f3 against Nimzo, yet Петросян against KID  Cheesy
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #13 - 02/21/19 at 21:19:36
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grandpatzer wrote on 02/21/19 at 21:08:15:
What is the source for Moskalenko's book? I can't see it anywhere


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/9056918303/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2

ETA:  now also here.
https://www.newinchess.com/an-attacking-repertoire-for-white-with-1-d4
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What is the source for Moskalenko's book? I can't see it anywhere
  
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N. Pert published an "Attacking Repertoire with 1.d4", DVD


Actually two DVDs ...which don't include the KID and Gruenfeld (against which he did a "solid and safe" DVD several years ago).
  
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N. Pert published an "Attacking Repertoire with 1.d4", DVD
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #9 - 02/16/19 at 18:54:22
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Stigma wrote on 02/15/19 at 05:02:37:
kylemeister wrote on 02/14/19 at 15:55:53:
Amazon has this bit:  "Lakdawala recommends lines with f2-f3 against the Nimzo-Indian, the Petrosian System against the King's Indian and the Flick Knife (f4 with Bb5+) against the Benoni."

A surprising combination, isn't it? When I think of a typical Petrosian KID player, I picture someone like ... Petrosian, or Cummings, whose English repertoire book is quite varied but probably on the positional side on average. While those other two lines are something for swashbuckling attackers ready for sharp and non-standard positions.

Maybe I'm overgeneralizing. We'll have to wait and see how he pulls it off.



Not quite. If he follows e.g. Kramnik-Nakamura, 2014, the plan with Be3 and long castling leads to sharp positions quickly.
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
Reply #8 - 02/16/19 at 11:30:19
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Offering interesting options against the big systems Nimzo, KID, Grünfeld etc. is one thing, the other is putting all this together to a coherent repertoire with all those problems of transpositions! Especially if you don’t have the semi-waiting move 2Nf3

I took a look again at Kornev‘s „Practical White Repertoire with 1.d4 and 2.c4“ (3 volumes, ~1000pages, ChessStars 2013/14) and splitted the coverage into
~55% the big d4 systems (QGA, QGD, Slav, Semislav, Nimzo, Grünfeld, KID, ModernBenoni, Dutch with 1...f5 2.Nc3)
~33% other/minor d4 lines (Albin, Chigorin, Tarrasch, Wolga & various Benonis, Old Indian, Tango, Budapest, Various after 1.d4 e6 2.c4)
~12% things could happen after 1.e4 (mainly Pirc and Modern)
Counting slightly differently Kornev could have shortened his coverage ~25% if he had restricted his coverage to 1...d5/Nf6/f5/c5/e5 and had recommended 2.e4! „whenever possible“! (And please no BDG, Staunton or Gibbins-Weidenhagen!))

1.d4 e6 2.c4 (not ...d5/Nf6) is a big subject and 1.d4 d6 2.c4 e5 is certainly something many white players would like to avoid!?
So I’m curious what Moskalenko, Lakdawala and Sielecki have in mind against that ...

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Yes, I read in Petrosian's Legacy. Great article on the development of the Petrosian Variation (h4! and closing the kingside... ). And Shereshevsky gives some of these lines in The Soviet Chess Conveyor. But I had already  put them together myself by the time I saw those.
  
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Reply #6 - 02/15/19 at 20:26:57
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I'm sure Moskalenko will be advocating 4. f3 against the Nimzo as well. He's played it a lot, and I seem to recall he's written about it before (maybe in Revolutionise Your Chess?).
  

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ReneDescartes wrote on 02/15/19 at 07:30:59:
I used play the Petrosian as part of just such a varied-but-more-positional repertoire. I used to combine the Petrosian KID with the Leningrad Nimzo, the Bg5 (Lasker) Gruenfeld, the Bg5/Ne2 Exchange QGD, and the Bg5/e3 Benoni. Really, I could have designed a pinning 1.d4 2.c4 repertoire book ("Bg5: Pin Intended!").

You had previously read 'Petrosian's Legacy', hadn't you? Because that's what I did and played for a while! Not sure why I move away from this to frank.
  
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Re: Two new 1 d4 2 c4 Repertoires
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alyechin wrote on 02/14/19 at 15:31:31:
Cyrus Lakdawala: Opening Repertoire: 1 D4 with 2 C4


This book, as all Lakdawala's books, is strong bye.
  

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It is strange...It would look like he's trying to give the solid players sharp lines and the sharp players solid lines. Except for that bit about the Benoni... Shocked

I used play the Petrosian as part of just such a varied-but-more-positional repertoire. I used to combine the Petrosian KID with the Leningrad Nimzo, the Bg5 (Lasker) Gruenfeld, the Bg5/Ne2 Exchange QGD, and the Bg5/e3 Benoni. Really, I could have designed a pinning 1.d4 2.c4 repertoire book ("Bg5: Pin Intended!").
  
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kylemeister wrote on 02/14/19 at 15:55:53:
Amazon has this bit:  "Lakdawala recommends lines with f2-f3 against the Nimzo-Indian, the Petrosian System against the King's Indian and the Flick Knife (f4 with Bb5+) against the Benoni."

A surprising combination, isn't it? When I think of a typical Petrosian KID player, I picture someone like ... Petrosian, or Cummings, whose English repertoire book is quite varied but probably on the positional side on average. While those other two lines are something for swashbuckling attackers ready for sharp and non-standard positions.

Maybe I'm overgeneralizing. We'll have to wait and see how he pulls it off.
  

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Amazon has this bit:  "Lakdawala recommends lines with f2-f3 against the Nimzo-Indian, the Petrosian System against the King's Indian and the Flick Knife (f4 with Bb5+) against the Benoni."

Christof Sielecki also has such a product in the works.
  
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Cyrus Lakdawala: Opening Repertoire: 1 D4 with 2 C4

Viktor Moskalenko: An Attacking Repertoire for White with 1.D4: Ambitious Ideas and Powerful Weapons

What are they going to reccomend?
  
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