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Reply #17 - 03/25/19 at 21:40:37
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Interestingly enough there is a game in the US Championship today between Liang and Akobian in the 8 Bd3 line. Akobian played 7...cxd4 and followed 8 Bd3 with Qc7 rather than ...Qa5 no doubt transposing back to Miedema's recommendations.
  
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Reply #16 - 03/25/19 at 21:29:23
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/25/19 at 20:52:30:
Stigma wrote on 03/25/19 at 19:20:55:
Hi Leon_Trotsky,

Have you considered sending Miedama an e-mail to ask him personally for a bit more information on what he believes is wrong with 7...0-0?

He seems like a nice guy. If you introduce yourself as a fellow Winawer enthusiast, you may get a good answer.  Smiley


That sounds interesting. Do you know him personally or he has a public e-mail listed somewhere ¿ 

No, I don't know him. I've only run into him a couple of times at tournaments where he was selling NIC Magazine subscriptions (at least I believe it was him, but not 100% sure).

Some authors give a contact e-mail for feedback in their books. If he didn't, you could try reaching him through the publisher.
  

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Stigma wrote on 03/25/19 at 19:20:55:
Hi Leon_Trotsky,

Have you considered sending Miedama an e-mail to ask him personally for a bit more information on what he believes is wrong with 7...0-0?

He seems like a nice guy. If you introduce yourself as a fellow Winawer enthusiast, you may get a good answer.  Smiley


That sounds interesting. Do you know him personally or he has a public e-mail listed somewhere ¿ 

I had thought that he had found something very deep in the main lines of 13...Df7 or 13...b5 that no one has found yet that could alter the evaluations. But it looks like 9. Ag5 is what he dislikes. I vaguely remember a while ago Erwin L'Ami (if remember correctly) did a short article in ChessBase Magazine about 9. Ag5 for White with some strange new breakthrough after White takes on g6, where White forces f5 at all cost to weaken the d5 point. I wonder if this is part of why Miedema dislikes now 7...0-0.

And both are Dutch players, maybe players in the Netherlands know something about 9. Ag5 that we do not  Cheesy

MW wrote on 03/25/19 at 19:43:57:
Would be really interested to know what is proposed after 12h4 in the main line. I have tried both 12...d4 and 12...b6 with no success but suspect that 12...b6 may be worth looking at more deeply.


If I understand correctly, on the page 215 he says that he has "no specific move order preference" between 12. h4 Ad7 or 12...d4. So I guess he recommends the setup with both moves included. However he does not like the sideline 12...b6 and gives 13. Cxc3 with a +/=. 

12. Dd3 d4 and 12...Ad7 both given.

I am just looking through it today, first impression on the book would be high marks  Smiley
  
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Hi Leon_Trotsky,

Would be really interested to know what is proposed after 12h4 in the main line. I have tried both 12...d4 and 12...b6 with no success but suspect that 12...b6 may be worth looking at more deeply. 

Don't think that the other frequently played 12...Bd7 holds much for black but who knows!

Without some solution to 12h4 I agree with you that 7....0-0 seems black's best try.
  
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Hi Leon_Trotsky,

Have you considered sending Miedama an e-mail to ask him personally for a bit more information on what he believes is wrong with 7...0-0?

He seems like a nice guy. If you introduce yourself as a fellow Winawer enthusiast, you may get a good answer.  Smiley
  

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Reply #12 - 03/25/19 at 18:40:47
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I received copy of this book this morning.

On explaining why he prefers 7. Dg4 Dc7 to 7...cxd4 is he says on page 145 that 8. Ad3 Da5 9. Ce2 0-0 10. Ag5 reminds him of the 7...0-0 8. Ad3 Cbc6 9. Ag5 variation, which he gives as "+-"  Shocked Shocked Shocked

I am not an expert on 9. Ag5, but +- ¿ As they say in the Spanish state, ¿En serio, tío?  Cheesy
  
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Reply #11 - 03/21/19 at 05:41:10
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MW wrote on 03/21/19 at 01:48:47:
The three main tries to date seem to have been 12...d4, 12...Bd7 and 12....b6 but none of these have done that well, so I'll be intrigued to see what the author has come up with...


I am not up to date on the theory of any of the Poisoned Prawn, but Berg had recommended 12...d4 if I remember. What do you mean that it is not doing well ¿ Has theory changed recently ¿ 

MW wrote on 03/21/19 at 01:48:47:
Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/20/19 at 23:55:44:
I still think that 7...0-0 is a good choice though


You may be right


I simply cannot believe that 7...0-0 8. Ad3 Cbc6 is "almost refuted". It had some problems in 2014 at first when Negi analysed all three of 13...Ad7, 13...Df7 and Berg's 13...b5 but then the correspondence games of past couple years have shown how Black can play against his 15. Cg5 idea. 

13...Df7 seems to always be fine despite the apocalyptic style pessimissm towards Black's position. 13...Ad7 however might have real problems; but the other two I believe not.
  
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Reply #10 - 03/21/19 at 01:48:47
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/20/19 at 23:55:44:
I still think that 7...0-0 is a good choice though


You may be right; to me the Poisoned Pawn variation stands or falls on whether black can get reasonable play against 12 h4.

The three main tries to date seem to have been 12...d4, 12...Bd7 and 12....b6 but none of these have done that well, so I'll be intrigued to see what the author has come up with...

  
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I have been told that the book shall be in stock in Thinkers Publishing Belgium shop by the 22th march this Friday. My guess is probably this week for the European shops (hopefully).

I still think that 7...0-0 is a good choice though  Cheesy
  
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Reply #8 - 03/06/19 at 19:29:55
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I am still interesting in what lines exactly he thinks of 7...0-0 that caused him to change to Poisoned Pawn.
  
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Reply #7 - 03/06/19 at 18:40:44
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The excerpt looks very good, as I especially like opening books with a personal flavor.
  
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Re: Modernised French Defence by Miedema
Reply #6 - 03/04/19 at 07:54:47
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White has done very well with 7...cxd4 8.Bd3 Qa5 9.Rb1. It has been played in less than 10 games, but there were some pretty strong players involved.
  

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Reply #5 - 03/04/19 at 00:41:22
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/03/19 at 18:48:40:

But is not the modern move order 7. Dg4 cxd4 take immediately ¿ I found curious that he gives the older 7...Dc7 move order.


I think it is a taste thing.....according to Berg 7...Qxc7 and 7...cxd4 usually transpose, but 7...Qc7 makes the sideline  starting with 8 Bd3 a better option than it is after 7...cxd4.
  
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Reply #4 - 03/03/19 at 18:48:40
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MW wrote on 03/01/19 at 01:18:58:
According to the Thinkers Publishing website is due on 20 March.....


I asked a De Beste Zet and was told that between 12.03-14.03 it would probably be available for purchase. So in other words sometime next week  Grin

MW wrote on 03/01/19 at 01:18:58:
IMO 12h4 is the big test for the Poison Pawn so it will be really interesting to see how the author deals with this...16 pages have been used to cover this line.


12. h4 d4 and after craziness both sides force perpetuals, no ¿  Cheesy

MW wrote on 03/01/19 at 01:18:58:
According to the Thinkers Publishing website is due on 20 March.....

IMO 12h4 is the big test for the Poison Pawn so it will be really interesting to see how the author deals with this...16 pages have been used to cover this line.

The book is a must have for me. I've been playing the French since I was 15 ....which seems a long time ago now!!


I play 7...0-0 but is must buy for me too since it is nice to have choices after 7. Dg4. There is also 4...b6 and 6...Da5 but that is a different topic  Cool

But is not the modern move order 7. Dg4 cxd4 take immediately ¿ I found curious that he gives the older 7...Dc7 move order.
  
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Re: Modernised French Defence by Miedema
Reply #3 - 03/01/19 at 14:05:54
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 03/01/19 at 10:15:57:
I always thought that the Poisoned Pawn was riskier..

That's testable!

Poisoned pawn after 10.Ne2 60% (32% draws).
7.Qg4 O-O 8.Bd3 Nbc6 9.Bg5 71% (29% draws).

On a general level your thought seems to be incorrect.
  

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