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Re: A Complete Guide to 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4
Reply #35 - 11/12/19 at 07:45:28
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RoleyPoley wrote on 11/11/19 at 15:46:46:
I always thought it was John Emms and Byron Jacobs?


John used to be commissioning editor, but he packed it in several years ago. Byron does that now.
  

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Reply #34 - 11/11/19 at 15:46:46
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Bibs wrote on 11/10/19 at 08:11:50:
The ‘recycling’ via doubling up seems intensely cynical. The failure to relabel here looks inept.
Who runs Everyman by the way?


I always thought it was John Emms and Byron Jacobs?
  

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Reply #33 - 11/10/19 at 12:52:52
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 11/10/19 at 08:55:06:
My question is why are they re-combining these old opening books into two (or three) in the first place. I can understand the older books on the middlegame and endgame--it can be a good deal to get a combined titles book that way.

But the theoretical opening books from 2000-2005 or whatever and combining them just make little sense to me.


It is a way to try to shift dead old stock, one presumes.
It’s a nasty way to do it though and gives the impression that they simply regard customers as mugs to be ripped off.
Just...not very nice at all.
  
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Reply #32 - 11/10/19 at 08:55:06
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My question is why are they re-combining these old opening books into two (or three) in the first place. I can understand the older books on the middlegame and endgame--it can be a good deal to get a combined titles book that way.

But the theoretical opening books from 2000-2005 or whatever and combining them just make little sense to me.
  
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Reply #31 - 11/10/19 at 08:11:50
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The ‘recycling’ via doubling up seems intensely cynical. The failure to relabel here looks inept.
Who runs Everyman by the way?

With other chess publishers one does get the impression of people trying. QC is clearly ambitious and pushes the envelope. Some great stuff there since Marin then Avrukh changed the paradigm. Chess Stars is having a good go too - I like their pedagogy. Thinkers have come up with some horrid formatting but are spirited and improving. Everyman - I liked the ‘Dangerous Weapons’ series. But down the pan with Lakdawala and the recycling, ugh.
  
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Reply #30 - 11/09/19 at 09:52:35
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It tells you something about Everyman's standards that they didn't manage to correct the mistake even when Jonathan drew their attention to it.

I note also that they have recycled the original blurbs, including a reference to "bringing the reader up to date with the expanding theory". That's the theory as it stood in 2003.
  
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Reply #29 - 11/09/19 at 00:19:44
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Jonathan Tait wrote on 05/06/19 at 08:09:34:
Stigma wrote on 05/04/19 at 16:10:09:
Surely they meant to pair the Italian/Evans book with the Two Knights' book? Mixing the Four Knights in there doesn't make much sense.


Yes, it's clearly a mistake. I've emailed them about it.

As for bundling up old stock: it's just a way of selling it, isn't it, which seems fair enough to me. But given that's the case, there's no point to this thread really.

So according to both Amazon and the Everyman site this bundle is published, and it's still the Italian/Evans and the Four Knights combined under the title "A Complete Guide to 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4".

I guess it's too late for Everyman to correct their mistake now that it's been printed, but it does look a bit silly.
  

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Re: A Complete Guide to 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4
Reply #28 - 05/14/19 at 23:42:59
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kylemeister wrote on 05/14/19 at 15:34:15:
[quote author=7B7E787F74747F6E2C2B1A0 link=1556976158/18#18 date=1557843291]I have played 3...d6 a lot, both via the Italian and more often via the Philidor (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 Nc6), with rather good results. The only way to punish it is by playing sharply 4.d4! exd4 5.c3!. Just about nobody does that, though.


I ran into this recently. My response was 5. .. dxc3 6. 0-0 and now 6. .. Be7 is an error (6. .. Nf6 should be played). After 7. Qb3 Na5 8. Bxf7 Kf8 9. Qxc3 Kxf7 10 Qxa5 White is quite a lot better.



  
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Reply #27 - 05/14/19 at 21:33:26
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 05/14/19 at 19:27:33:
grandpatzer wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:43:09:
I thought that 4.c3 was the only "refutation" of 3...d6.
Not even close, 4.c3 g6 5.d4 Qe7 and white is a bit better (see next comment), but black's position is very playable.

mn wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:51:50:
Isn't 4 d4 exd4 5 Nxd4 a bit better for White?
Agreed, and there are other ways for white to be a bit better. But shouldn't white strive for more against an "inferior" move like 3...d6 ...? Now 4.d4 exd4 5.Nxd4 g6 gives black a very reasonable Philidor-type position, instead of the critical Be3 Qd2 O-O-O line. Still, if you like this for white, check out Barsky (2009) Scotch Game for White. After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 g6 he advocates 5.Nxc6 bxc6 6.Bc4 Bg7 7.O-O, which amounts to the same thing.


Well, it's inferior in that +/= is more than White would theoretically achieve against 3...Bc5  Smiley

Shaw's book also advocates the same continuation via the Scotch Game, btw.
  
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Reply #26 - 05/14/19 at 21:15:28
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I think that 3...g6 as played by Memmedjarow deserves more attention. Essentially is Smyslov Ruy López against 3. Ac4  Cheesy
  
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Reply #25 - 05/14/19 at 19:40:45
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grandpatzer wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:43:09:
And, on another note, a little book on the rather annoying 3...d6 defence to 3.Bc4 would be very interesting!

"Winning with that 3...d6 thing with which Alekhine won a nice simul game."  Okay, I guess it needs work.
  
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Reply #24 - 05/14/19 at 19:27:33
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grandpatzer wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:43:09:
I thought that 4.c3 was the only "refutation" of 3...d6.
Not even close, 4.c3 g6 5.d4 Qe7 and white is a bit better (see next comment), but black's position is very playable.

mn wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:51:50:
Isn't 4 d4 exd4 5 Nxd4 a bit better for White?
Agreed, and there are other ways for white to be a bit better. But shouldn't white strive for more against an "inferior" move like 3...d6 ...? Now 4.d4 exd4 5.Nxd4 g6 gives black a very reasonable Philidor-type position, instead of the critical Be3 Qd2 O-O-O line. Still, if you like this for white, check out Barsky (2009) Scotch Game for White. After 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 exd4 4.Nxd4 g6 he advocates 5.Nxc6 bxc6 6.Bc4 Bg7 7.O-O, which amounts to the same thing.
  
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Reply #23 - 05/14/19 at 19:18:18
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 05/14/19 at 18:12:23:
kylemeister, what old 6...Nf6 line are you referring to?

7. Qb3 Qd7 8. Ng5 Ne5 9. Bb5 c6 10. f4 and now ...cb or ...Neg4.  Speaking of old Göring Gambit sources, one thing I have which addresses this is a fifty-year-old pamphlet by David Levy.  Some books since then have had such evaluations as equal or unclear.
  
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Reply #22 - 05/14/19 at 18:51:50
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Isn't 4 d4 exd4 5 Nxd4 a bit better for White?
  
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Reply #21 - 05/14/19 at 18:43:09
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I thought that 4.c3 was the only "refutation" of 3...d6. And, on another note, a little book on the rather annoying 3...d6 defence to 3.Bc4 would be very interesting!
  
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