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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #24 - 07/02/19 at 20:33:08
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Looks like the ebook version is posted on everyman's website. Has anyone picked up a copy? if so, what's the repertoire? 

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Reply #23 - 06/25/19 at 22:42:04
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Has anyone got this book and if so does it differ greatly from the move by move volume as written by Lakdawala?
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #22 - 06/23/19 at 12:48:32
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 06/23/19 at 08:14:12:
https://www.chessdirect.co.uk/acatalog/p4539.pdf on ChessDirect, but not on Everyman website.

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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
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https://www.chessdirect.co.uk/acatalog/p4539.pdf on ChessDirect, but not on Everyman website.
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #20 - 06/23/19 at 07:51:18
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 06/22/19 at 03:50:25:
It looks like De Beste Zet have it too.

I do find it weird to write book on same opening, when he had already written one just four years earlier  Cheesy


Not really that surprising, the Petroff is probably growing in popularity again after a long while in not having much written for it - 

Also, the move by move and the opening repertoire series are supposed to be slightly different audiences i think.

I find it surprising there isnt a sample available online yet.
  

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Reply #19 - 06/22/19 at 03:50:25
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It looks like De Beste Zet have it too.

I do find it weird to write book on same opening, when he had already written one just four years earlier  Cheesy
  
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Reply #18 - 06/21/19 at 21:42:51
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This book is now available from both Chess Direct and Chess & Bridge.

I would be interested to know how different it is from The Petroff Move by Move....guess comparing the games index in both books will soon tell.
  
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Reply #17 - 06/12/19 at 22:51:29
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Everyman website says released June. I still do not see it on coming soon section of De Beste Zet or Schachversand Niggemann. Anyone know if it is releasing soon ¿
  
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Reply #16 - 06/02/19 at 07:38:31
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As far as I call, looking at excerpt he recommends in this new book 8...b6 in "New Main Line" with opposites sides castling, which was I think given favourably also in his Move by Move book.

Since there is no Index of Variations, I cannot see in big detail what else he recommends compared to Move by Move book.

On p. 10 he talks about chimpanzee and Planet of the Apes film when talking about Cochrane Gambit, so it looks like his eccentric writing style continues  Cheesy
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #15 - 06/01/19 at 18:55:52
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snakebite wrote on 06/01/19 at 08:45:52:
I guess a key question is how much this book differs from his Move by Move book on the Petroff?


Totally agree, but without there being either an index or a list of games used in the excerpt it is going to be difficult to tell.... 

Doubtless Amazon will produce something in due course but that is usually well after release date in Europe.

If the content is different I would have thought that the publishers would highlight this to maximise sales?
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #14 - 06/01/19 at 08:45:52
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I guess a key question is how much this book differs from his Move by Move book on the Petroff?
  
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Reply #13 - 05/31/19 at 23:18:47
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dave-o wrote on 05/31/19 at 20:12:14:
Nisipeanu-Fridman from the German Masters 3 days ago


Thanks...although Stockfish thinks 20...Kh8 is OK not the type of position you want in an OTB game....
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #12 - 05/31/19 at 20:12:14
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MW wrote on 05/31/19 at 18:57:44:


Can you tell me who the game was between....I'm not a member of chess24 so the script is long and slow to trawl through due to all the adds I get. Thanks


Nisipeanu-Fridman from the German Masters 3 days ago
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #11 - 05/31/19 at 18:57:44
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IsaVulpes wrote on 05/31/19 at 14:53:37:
Then you may want to have a look at this game.. https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/german-masters-2019/3/1/2 ;


Can you tell me who the game was between....I'm not a member of chess24 so the script is long and slow to trawl through due to all the adds I get. Thanks
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #10 - 05/31/19 at 18:53:18
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I mean how he writes so fast. Book on 1. d4 2. c4 published few weeks ago no ¿ And before that French book...meanwhilst I am analysing a specific line in French Winawer for three months and still would not be able to publish anything if I could  Cheesy

Petroff avoids Scotch and Italian, which now probably close to as popular as White playing main Ruy López.

In excerpt, I question what point is of analysing endgame in opening book. Unless it has direct affect on long analytical lines, would be better to replace that with more detailed opening analysis.
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #9 - 05/31/19 at 14:53:37
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Jupp53 wrote on 05/31/19 at 14:23:55:
Taking the work of C. Sielicki about the Russian Defense seems better to me. He's following Caruana's games and presented a very clear and solid approach. It's not necessary to have always the newest book.

Does he recommend this Nd7-Nf6 thing against 5 Nc3? 

Then you may want to have a look at this game.. https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/german-masters-2019/3/1/2  Lips Sealed
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #8 - 05/31/19 at 14:23:55
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Seeley wrote on 05/31/19 at 10:03:23:
Perhaps an alternative approach, and one that would reduce the amount of preparation required, would be for you to learn a third-move Ruy Lopez sideline yourself, rather than take up the Petroff. There's plenty of material available on lines such as 3...g6, 3...Nge7 and the Schliemann, for example.


Taking the work of C. Sielicki about the Russian Defense seems better to me. He's following Caruana's games and presented a very clear and solid approach. It's not necessary to have always the newest book.
  

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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #7 - 05/31/19 at 10:03:23
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/30/19 at 21:49:48:
I think another question, is why he write so many books ¿

I'd guess the reason he writes so many books and the reason Everyman continues to publish them is that they sell well.

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/31/19 at 03:30:35:
But from experience reading his previous books, his writing style is annoying. Hopefully he stops with weird jokes and anecdotes  Cheesy

I'd further guess that his idiosyncratic writing style is key to this success. Like you, I find it irritating, but then I doubt that you or I form part of the target readership of these books, which are probably aimed largely at players who are dipping their toe into the waters of chess literature for the first time and who feel either put off or intimidated by the serious and humourless style of most of it.

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/31/19 at 03:30:35:
This looks interesting book. If I had to play 1...e5 and avoid all White's sidelines in Ruy López, Petroff would be a good one.

Perhaps an alternative approach, and one that would reduce the amount of preparation required, would be for you to learn a third-move Ruy Lopez sideline yourself, rather than take up the Petroff. There's plenty of material available on lines such as 3...g6, 3...Nge7 and the Schliemann, for example.
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #6 - 05/31/19 at 09:19:12
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 05/31/19 at 05:58:20:
He has no intention to change. So we must cope as best we can.  Huh

This applies to


an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 05/31/19 at 07:17:24:
anyway it's very strange to claim that black wins a pawn by force when the actual game shows a defense.

as well. It's the same with his book on the Veressov and from what I've understood from reviews with all his books. It's why I never would buy a book by him on a serious opening, like the Petrov.
  

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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
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In the pdf sample on page 278 he says "Black wins a pawn with 38...Nc4! 39.a4 Ne5 40.Bh4" etc., but after the game's 38...Nf1? (his question mark) 39.Kd1 Ne3+ 40.Kc1 he completely overlooks that it's the same position. After 40...Nc4 he says "The trouble is White can hold a draw here." In fact after 41.Bh4 (instead of 39.a4) b5 42.Bd8 a4 43.Bc7 Ne5 he now analyzes 44.Bxe5! to a draw. I checked this and couldn't find any big improvement for black. But anyway it's very strange to claim that black wins a pawn by force when the actual game shows a defense.
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #4 - 05/31/19 at 05:58:20
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Leon_Trotsky wrote on 05/31/19 at 03:30:35:
... his writing style is annoying. ...
He knows quite well that some find it annoying. He has no intention to change. So we must cope as best we can.  Huh
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #3 - 05/31/19 at 03:30:35
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I see, I found it now. This looks interesting book. If I had to play 1...e5 and avoid all White's sidelines in Ruy López, Petroff would be a good one.

https://www.chessdirect.co.uk/acatalog/p4539.pdf

But from experience reading his previous books, his writing style is annoying. Hopefully he stops with weird jokes and anecdotes  Cheesy
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #2 - 05/30/19 at 22:39:01
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It is on the Chess Direct Website (coming soon section) with sample pages....Similarly a search on Everyman's quick links/search will find it, although Everyman don't have the sample pages there.
  
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Re: Opening Repertoire The Petroff
Reply #1 - 05/30/19 at 21:49:48
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Where did you find this book ¿ Everyman do not have it displayed and internet search only shows his Move by Move book.

I think another question, is why he write so many books ¿ What about other authors who want subjects he write about ¿
  
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Opening Repertoire The Petroff
05/30/19 at 18:58:22
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I see that Mr Lakdawala has a new booking coming out on the Petroff.....whilst I have no idea how he is able to produce so many books I did think his move by move Petroff book was very good.

There are sample pages available online but there is no abbreviated index. It always surprises me when publishers produce sample pages but no index. 

In an opening repertoire book I do like to have an idea of what variations are covered. For example, in the Main Line, 8 Nbd2 is the move I have faced most frequently in ICCF games. It has generally been played against me by players rated over 2400 and I would like to know whether this book includes the line...but can't do that without some form of index!
  
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