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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #14 - 11/13/19 at 13:19:09
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Thank you, RoleyPoley

RoleyPoley wrote on 11/11/19 at 16:08:27:
… and the relative simplicity of 2.Nc3 (it leads to a smaller number of set ups black will play against you so requires you to know less in turn).


Yes, I guess that is a valid point.
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #13 - 11/11/19 at 16:08:27
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Lanark wrote on 11/11/19 at 10:52:48:
I am interested in the London after 1.d4 d5 (after 1.d4 Nf6 I like the Tromp).
Does Williams give any information about the pros and cons of the "pure" London and the London-Jobava after 1...d5?

Of course a lot of lines can merge after e.g. 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.Nc3
I believe after 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 c5 the move 3.e4 is more dangerous than the Morris gambit 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 c5 3.e4. The latter has a quite dubious reputation.

Are there any other lines where 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 (followed by 3.Bf4) is advantageous compared to 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4?

I somehow think 2.Nc3 is a bit more dynamic or Tromp-like than 2.Bf4. On the other hand 2.Bf4 appears sounder to me, but maybe that's only my kind of gut feeling.  Smiley


I dont know if he says anything in the London DVD. I wouldnt have thought so.

He does briefly mention in his Jobava London DvD and Chessable products how they differ (particularly in the latter) - probably because he expects a crossover audience (and because he calls it Jobava London , not Jobava Prie).

Here his main points are i think the weakness of b2 if playing 2.Bf4 (and the threat of an early Qb6), and the relative simplicity of 2.Nc3 (it leads to a smaller number of set ups black will play against you so requires you to know less in turn).

I cant remember the specific lines he covers though in these explanations.
  

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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #12 - 11/11/19 at 10:52:48
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I am interested in the London after 1.d4 d5 (after 1.d4 Nf6 I like the Tromp).
Does Williams give any information about the pros and cons of the "pure" London and the London-Jobava after 1...d5?

Of course a lot of lines can merge after e.g. 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Nf6 3.Nc3
I believe after 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 c5 the move 3.e4 is more dangerous than the Morris gambit 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 c5 3.e4. The latter has a quite dubious reputation.

Are there any other lines where 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 (followed by 3.Bf4) is advantageous compared to 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4?

I somehow think 2.Nc3 is a bit more dynamic or Tromp-like than 2.Bf4. On the other hand 2.Bf4 appears sounder to me, but maybe that's only my kind of gut feeling.  Smiley

  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #11 - 11/05/19 at 16:14:01
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VGA wrote on 11/04/19 at 23:01:42:
Williams has said in his Youtube videos that he is very satisfied with the chessable people and that his cut of the sales is very fair. He has now posted even more videos of live Jobava London games (some are not JL games but the lines he recommends against non-mainline moves in the course)


I think Chessable is popular amongst content creators because their royalties are something like 60%
  

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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #10 - 11/04/19 at 23:01:42
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Williams has said in his Youtube videos that he is very satisfied with the chessable people and that his cut of the sales is very fair. He has now posted even more videos of live Jobava London games (some are not JL games but the lines he recommends against non-mainline moves in the course)
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #9 - 11/01/19 at 01:10:14
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The Jobava stuff is on his own Ginger GM dvd, from earlier in the year, and now the new video/chessable 'book' that came out a week or so ago.

I think the Chessbase videos cover the more common (Neo?) London stuff.

It's not that surprising it has come out on chessable now - he recently had his Killer Dutch material updated on put on there and is probably striking while the iron is hot.... there isnt much material out there on the Jobava system (I can only think of the London book by Romero has a chapter, as does the Move by Move Veresov book, and Jobava had an article in a chess yearbook a while back). It was only recently listed on their list of titles confirmed for publishing this year.

I think the royalties are much higher for Chessable than traditional chess publishers pay and he is a popular author/presenter .
  

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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #8 - 10/31/19 at 17:19:56
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I was just going by what is given here (click on "contents") ...where I see no Jobava stuff.
https://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/williams_the_london_system_reloaded?Ref=R...
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #7 - 10/31/19 at 16:46:46
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kylemeister wrote on 10/26/19 at 21:21:16:
I see that on the DVD after 1...Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 he indeed doesn't go with what the latest d-Pawn Specials update calls "the even more unbalancing 3. d5" (which can transpose to the Vaganian Gambit in the Trompowsky, or not) nor 3. e3 but rather 3. dc (which according to the same update "has lost a fair degree of popularity").

I think he said somewhere,, maybe the last DVD on the london that he did not like playing d5 and black does not play the vangardian. I heard that on chess.com there was a trump video and the author of it said the same. I could be wrong.

Does he give any jobrava stuff in chess base or is it pretty much the london? Just asking cause his last DVD had a chapter on it. Oh I was really surprised to see this dvd with the chessable course just out too.
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #6 - 10/29/19 at 13:00:28
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On chessable is a free course from williams about d4-Nc3-Bf4. Maybe you can get some ideas from this.
  

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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #5 - 10/29/19 at 12:17:07
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Simon has posted a "trailer" for his new work on the Jobava London system, as he calls it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoHt2wSb-TE

And two videos where he plays the opening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGz2-LPQILo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wvAzMLHzGs
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #4 - 10/27/19 at 15:21:26
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kylemeister wrote on 10/26/19 at 21:21:16:
I see that on the DVD after 1...Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 he indeed doesn't go with what the latest d-Pawn Specials update calls "the even more unbalancing 3. d5" (which can transpose to the Vaganian Gambit in the Trompowsky, or not) nor 3. e3 but rather 3. dc (which according to the same update "has lost a fair degree of popularity").


Not sure that I like the idea of giving the centre away so early without any apparent compensation. To me the London is partly about control of e5, certainly in  the initial stages of the opening.
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #3 - 10/26/19 at 21:21:16
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I see that on the DVD after 1...Nf6 2. Bf4 c5 he indeed doesn't go with what the latest d-Pawn Specials update calls "the even more unbalancing 3. d5" (which can transpose to the Vaganian Gambit in the Trompowsky, or not) nor 3. e3 but rather 3. dc (which according to the same update "has lost a fair degree of popularity").
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #2 - 10/26/19 at 20:21:42
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an ordinary chessplayer wrote on 10/26/19 at 19:42:47:
Well if on Chessable he doesn't like 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Bf5, then what does he recommend after 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Bf5 ?


If after 2 Nc3 black plays 2...Bf5 he recommends 3 f3 rather than Bf4. 

His concern with the 1...Nf6 2....c5 line is that after 3 d5 Qb6 and the b2 square is weak.
  
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Re: New London DVD By GM Williams.
Reply #1 - 10/26/19 at 19:42:47
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Well if on Chessable he doesn't like 1.d4 d5 2.Bf4 Bf5, then what does he recommend after 1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Bf5 ?
  
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New London DVD By GM Williams.
10/26/19 at 17:53:28
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I see Chessbase has released a new London System DVD by GM Williams.

If anyone has this would be interested in his comments on the lines 1 d4 d5 2 Bf4 Bf5 and 1 d4 Nf6  2 Bf4 c5 as on his recent Chessable release, The Jobava London System his comments to a subscriber suggested (to me anyway)  that the reason he preferred the 1 d4 ...2 Nc3 ....3 Bf4 move order was because of these two replies by black....

Seems a strange comment to make then a few days later release a new DVD on the London.
  
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