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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #8 - 12/01/19 at 16:32:24
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Black seems to be holding pretty well in the 5 Nbd2 email games with 9...g6 in the database that I look at, all 10 draws, including one game where both were 2500+ and 8 where both were in the 2300/2400 range  .  But I don't know if it's maybe more of a passion project for the Black players than the White ones.  You still suspect Black is just fighting to draw though -- I don't know why you'd go for this over another opening except to gamble your opponent won't play it?

l'Ami in the NIC YB 131 advocates in the 12 Nbd2 Bd7 13 a4 line to play 13... c6 14 bxc6 Bxc6 and says "Black will aim for a 4 vs 3 scenario on the kingside where the drawing margin is quite real."

Doesn't look the Albin is a lot of fun if White knows what he's doing, but it does seem if you want to use it a surprise weapon particularly in shorter time controls, you can take a bit of solace in the fact White doesn't seem to have a complete tactical refutation and probably knows much less about it than you do.
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #7 - 11/25/19 at 15:10:00
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Yes, Jack Hughes is correct (in my opinion anyway) that the line he quotes with 12.Nbd2 is pretty good for white. Lawrence Trent lost a game against it that is discussed on CP in May 2018 (game 9). My preference is for answering 12.Nbd2 with 12...Bd7 13.a4 Nf5 but nobody has tried this against me yet. Despite this evaluation on my part, I still think that 5.Nbd2 is white's best move! Not much of a personal testimonial for the Albin, I'm afraid, but there it is ...
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #6 - 11/24/19 at 20:11:02
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I'm quite interested to see two different users post that 5. Nbd2 is the real buzz kill, as I was under the impression than 5. a3 was if anything even more unpleasant for black. Does black have anything better than suffering in the endgame after 5... Nge7 6. b4 Ng6 7. Bb2 a5 8. b5 Ncxe5 9. Qxd4 Qxd4 10. Bxd4 Nxc4 11. e3 Nd6 12. Nbd2? White has scored superbly at all levels from internet blitz to ICCF correspondence and superficial engine evaluations give white a very healthy plus. Of course it wouldn't surprise me if 5. Nbd2 was equally good for white - against a move like 2... e5 you'd expect there to be more than one good option.
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #5 - 11/24/19 at 14:11:18
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I bought this DVD after trying just about every legal sequence of moves after 5.Nbd2 in the hope of finding an acceptable solution. The DVD recommends 5...Nge7 6.Nb3 Nf5 7.e4 dxe3 8.Qxd8+ Nxd8 9.fxe3 g6 based on a correspondence game that I didn't know. I haven't tried this myself because I didn't like it. I would recommend 5...Bf5 6.Nb3 Qe7 myself, but obviously 5.Nbd2 is still a big problem. Luckily not everyone plays it, e.g. 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 d4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.a3 Nge7 6.b3 Ng6 7.Bb2 Bg4 8.Nxd4 Bc5 9.h3 Bxd4 (0-1) GM xxx - pirx, a 5 minute ICC blitz game.
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #4 - 11/16/19 at 09:36:59
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If one has a closer look at any book or dvd on a risky opening variation it nearly allways comes to one clear point:

You need a mistake or at least an inaccuracy by the oponent to get things going.

With best moves you may end in problems. But as I watch, best moves doe not come in high frequency. A lot of oponents concede the needed inaccuracys...
  

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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #3 - 11/15/19 at 14:01:55
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I don't have it, but considering, that the Albin is more or less refuted by 5.Nbd2, there are only two possibilities:
1. The DVD is honest and shows all the critical lines. Then it should be quite depressing
2. He is showing some nice wins, which give you a sense for the dynamic in the opening, but is not of much value opening wise.

These days I would always check my database when it comes to learning a new, dubious opening. At least in this case you are making sure, that it is your own fault, if you lose your game because of it:D
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #2 - 11/13/19 at 06:55:39
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mn wrote on 11/12/19 at 21:22:08:
I don't have the DVD but "opinion of it" is the correct diction.

Thank you mn!
  
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Re: The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
Reply #1 - 11/12/19 at 21:22:08
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I don't have the DVD but "opinion of it" is the correct diction.
  
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The Amazing Albin Counter-Gambit
11/12/19 at 10:40:33
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Do any of you have this DVD from Lawrence Trent and what is your opinion about/of it? (I don't know what is the correct English Wink )
  
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