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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #14 - 04/18/20 at 01:45:47
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TopNotch wrote on 04/17/20 at 22:01:26:
No matter how good this book may or may not be, I do not see the Petroff ever becoming popular at amateur level, as there is very little upside for Black. Furthermore the opening is just not sexy enough below GM and IM level, not to mention Black is under tremendous pressure in a few key lines, although admittedly he can hold the balance with precise play but the positions are definitely no fun for him. Below Master level Black players need sound but active defences to thrive.

Bullet Proof rep won't help much against an Armor Piercing attack. Wink


Interesting perspective. What are examples of black openings you think are better suited for amateurs?
  
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Reply #13 - 04/17/20 at 22:01:26
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No matter how good this book may or may not be, I do not see the Petroff ever becoming popular at amateur level, as there is very little upside for Black. Furthermore the opening is just not sexy enough below GM and IM level, not to mention Black is under tremendous pressure in a few key lines, although admittedly he can hold the balance with precise play but the positions are definitely no fun for him. Below Master level Black players need sound but active defences to thrive.

Bullet Proof rep won't help much against an Armor Piercing attack. Wink
  

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Reply #12 - 04/17/20 at 12:00:33
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Kingside castling in the modern mainline always looked pretty scary to me but maybe the book can convince me to try it.

Bb4 instead of the Four Knights also looks interesting.
  
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Reply #11 - 04/16/20 at 23:39:02
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tracke wrote on 04/16/20 at 18:17:08:


Looks nice, indeed. Will definitely get it when it comes out
  
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Reply #10 - 04/16/20 at 18:17:08
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #9 - 01/13/20 at 02:35:34
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MW wrote on 01/13/20 at 00:57:10:
The two Lakdawala books are also very good reads and I was impressed with the fact that there was little cross over of material between the two books. But in the Opening repertoire edition if you look at the "new main line" as he calls it, he offers a number of different lines for black resulting in the level of depth in each option being a little on the thin side for a repertoire.


I suppose so. I analysed the Petroff and made my own personal files for analysis. I spent probably one whole month on this opening, analysing it everyday, so yes if I did this maybe he could have added more analysis in his book.

Also, I analysed the line with 8...b6 in the New Main Line myself, and it seems like Black has to know what he is doing to avoid getting attacked. The queenside fianchetto means that Black lags in development, especially since he already has castled kingside.
  
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #8 - 01/13/20 at 00:57:10
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RoleyPoley wrote on 01/12/20 at 18:45:48:
You think the Fight 1.e4 like Caruana repertoire isn't good/modern enough?

Leon_Trotsky wrote on 01/12/20 at 23:01:42:
But there were books by Cohen and Lakdawala on the Petroff as well.


I have Fight Like Caruana and it is very good, excellent in fact, but I was referring to printed material. I haven't finished this course and unlike a book I find it hard to flick through and look at the more challenging lines for black. Chessable products are still a work in progress for me, great if you want to simply learn variations but for use as a reference source I'm not proficient enough with the product yet.

The two Lakdawala books are also very good reads and I was impressed with the fact that there was little cross over of material between the two books. But in the Opening repertoire edition if you look at the "new main line" as he calls it, he offers a number of different lines for black resulting in the level of depth in each option being a little on the thin side for a repertoire.

As for Or Cohen's book I have nothing but absolute admiration for the guy. He was pretty much unknown at the time and he put together an excellent book, one or two lines might have been on the edge but IMO that took nothing away from the finished product. Trouble is it is seven years old now and theory on the Petroff has moved on, hence I welcome Quality's new volume on this opening.   

  
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Reply #7 - 01/12/20 at 23:01:42
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But there were books by Cohen and Lakdawala on the Petroff as well.
  
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #6 - 01/12/20 at 18:45:48
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doefmat wrote on 01/12/20 at 17:35:27:
MW wrote on 01/12/20 at 17:31:45:
doefmat wrote on 01/12/20 at 10:25:23:
What do you mean with long overdue?


IMO the last authoritative book on the Petroff was written by Sakaev in 2011..hence the time has come for a up-date and I'm hoping this new book will provide that.


You think the Fight 1.e4 like Caruana repertoire isn't good/modern enough?

Perhaps he is referring to print sources?
  

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Reply #5 - 01/12/20 at 17:35:27
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MW wrote on 01/12/20 at 17:31:45:
doefmat wrote on 01/12/20 at 10:25:23:
What do you mean with long overdue?


IMO the last authoritative book on the Petroff was written by Sakaev in 2011..hence the time has come for a up-date and I'm hoping this new book will provide that.


You think the Fight 1.e4 like Caruana repertoire isn't good/modern enough?
  
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Reply #4 - 01/12/20 at 17:31:45
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doefmat wrote on 01/12/20 at 10:25:23:
What do you mean with long overdue?


IMO the last authoritative book on the Petroff was written by Sakaev in 2011..hence the time has come for a up-date and I'm hoping this new book will provide that.
  
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #3 - 01/12/20 at 10:25:23
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MW wrote on 01/11/20 at 21:43:38:
According to the publisher Swapnil has played the Petroff a few times although it is not the backbone of his repertoire. They do go onto say that they still think his analysis of it is first rate.

They have given no hint as to whether he will recommend 6...Bd6  (as per the Caruana repertoire) or the more usual 6...Nc6 against the old main line.

Regardless it is a long overdue book (IMHO) and one I'm looking forward too.


What do you mean with long overdue?
  
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #2 - 01/11/20 at 21:43:38
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According to the publisher Swapnil has played the Petroff a few times although it is not the backbone of his repertoire. They do go onto say that they still think his analysis of it is first rate.

They have given no hint as to whether he will recommend 6...Bd6  (as per the Caruana repertoire) or the more usual 6...Nc6 against the old main line.

Regardless it is a long overdue book (IMHO) and one I'm looking forward too.
  
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Re: Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
Reply #1 - 01/10/20 at 09:33:38
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Wow nice. People in older topics say there aren't many Petroff books because ' nothing happens' theory wise in this opening. Now we had quite a few releases!

I wonder how it will be different from the ' Fight 1.e4 like Caruana' repertoire.

Seems like he doesn't play the Petroff himself, a bit of a downer. I know this is true for a lot of books. But with the Kotronias book on the Tarrasch for example you can really notice that the writer is an expert in the opening.
  
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Playing the Petroff by Dhopade
01/09/20 at 19:43:03
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Quality Chess has just announced several forthcoming books, among them is

Playing the Petroff - A Bulletproof Repertoire by GM Swapnil Dhopade
expected release summer 2020
„This Book also provides plenty of guidance on how to deal with 1.e4 e5 games
where White avoids 2.Nf3, with particular focus on Anti-Petroff lines such as 2.Bc4“
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/1/371/playing_the_petroff_by_swapnil_dhop...

Also very interesting for Petroff players is another announcement by Quality
concerning a white repertoire in the Italian Game, with the first of two volumes
dealing with the 5.Nc3 in the Petroff AND with 2.Lc4. But that may be another thread.
http://www.qualitychess.co.uk/products/1/359/the_italian_renaissance_-_i_move_or...

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