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Re: Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
Reply #5 - 09/12/20 at 16:15:59
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I agree that Barsky and ChessPublishing are the best resources. I went through the variation index (Forward Chess) of Pert's book on the Ragozin. The book seems remarkably broad and deep, yet he does not seem to cover this line. I don't know what is in Cornette's book on the Ragozin.

Theory does not seem to have changed much. Opening theory is now well into the middle game. So I think the next step is to play through, and play, games to gain experience.

I like the ...Bb4 ...Nbd7 ...Qa5 idea. It seems an elegant way to break the pin, and to pin white. The Manhattan resembles the Cambridge Springs Defense a tempo up in ...c5 lines. Typical middle games pit black's queen side "majority attack," Barsky's terminology, against white's central push e4. White may have the better chances, but black certainly has positive play.

As one might pair a meal with a wine, the Manhattan must be paired for a complete repertoire. May I recommend the Nimzo-Indian?
  
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Re: Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
Reply #4 - 06/05/20 at 23:00:50
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mxstoe wrote on 05/18/20 at 13:26:48:
So do you guys know of any other resources on this Westphalia Line ?


Right here on Chesspublishing Ruslan Scherbakov devoted three months to an overview of the Ragozin, mainly ...Nbd7 lines, in June-August 2005. Obviously specific lines will have moved on but I played the Ragozin successfully at club level using only Ruslan’s updates, which include sufficient general explanations.
  
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Re: Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
Reply #3 - 05/18/20 at 13:26:48
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tony37 wrote on 05/13/20 at 17:02:00:
A weird thing about that book is that it only gives one game (four pages) for 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bh4, and nothing on 7...g5 or 7...O-O 8.e3 Bf5 (but that last line is a recent development).
Maybe he thought: in some years theory in these lines will be outdated anyway, so why bother...


So do you guys know of any other resources on this Westphalia Line ?
  
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Re: Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
Reply #2 - 05/13/20 at 17:02:00
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A weird thing about that book is that it only gives one game (four pages) for 5.cxd5 exd5 6.Bg5 h6 7.Bh4, and nothing on 7...g5 or 7...O-O 8.e3 Bf5 (but that last line is a recent development).
Maybe he thought: in some years theory in these lines will be outdated anyway, so why bother...
  
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Re: Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
Reply #1 - 05/13/20 at 16:09:13
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I see that the Manhattan/Westphalian is covered in chapter 7 of that now 9-year-old book.  I too have wondered why it doesn't get more attention.
  
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Ragozin/Manhattan 5.Bg5 Nbd7
05/13/20 at 13:55:39
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Hey, do any of you guys have "The Ragozin Complex" by Barsky and knows if he covers 5...Nbd7 in it? This Line seems to not get much attention in general, do you know why?
  
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