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Re: 1 Nf3, d4, b3
Reply #4 - 05/18/20 at 20:39:23
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RdC wrote on 05/17/20 at 13:57:18:
Heuristic wrote on 05/17/20 at 09:22:51:
[quote author=300621620 link=1589669464/1#1 date=1589700124][quote author=2A0717100B11160B01620 link=1589669464/0#0 date=1589669464]

So what would you call this one?
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 Bg4 4. Bb2 e6 5. e3 Ne4 6. Be2 Bd6


It's not anything in particular. Queen's Pawn Game perhaps. What does Fritz call it?


Fritz did not use any opening book in the game. But I believe it will say Zukertorts opening. Fritz opening classifications for obscure lines aren't perfect, though.

Now as for the actual opening, the main problem I see with it, and why I don't think it's very popular, is that black gets out a very strong light squared bishop while white's dark squared bishop is stuck behind a pawn. White  has some coordination problems against active play from black, since one piece is out of the game and is just passively defending. But it can be an effective long-term strategical opening to employ.
  
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Re: 1 Nf3, d4, b3
Reply #3 - 05/17/20 at 13:57:18
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Heuristic wrote on 05/17/20 at 09:22:51:
[quote author=300621620 link=1589669464/1#1 date=1589700124][quote author=2A0717100B11160B01620 link=1589669464/0#0 date=1589669464]

So what would you call this one?
1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 Bg4 4. Bb2 e6 5. e3 Ne4 6. Be2 Bd6


It's not anything in particular. Queen's Pawn Game perhaps. What does Fritz call it?
  
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Re: 1 Nf3, d4, b3
Reply #2 - 05/17/20 at 09:22:51
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RdC wrote on 05/17/20 at 07:22:04:
Heuristic wrote on 05/16/20 at 22:51:04:
What would you call that opening? White plays c4 also



It could transpose to something else. Queen's Pawn Game if it doesn't. It might also become a Colle-Zukertort.


So what would you call this one? Do you think a master-level human would bring out the queen like this if I tried this opening in a tournament game? I haven't competed since I was in my early 20s, and never played like this when I was young (I'm 31 now).


White: me (current ELO ?)
Black: Deep fritz 10.1 2 CPU (29-3000 elo)
TC 120/40
Result draw

1. d4 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. b3 Bg4 4. Bb2 e6 5. e3 Ne4 6. Be2 Bd6 7. O-O O-O 8. Nbd2 Bf5 9. Nxe4 Bxe4 10. c4 Qf6 11. Qd2 Nc6 12. c5 Be7 13. b4 a6 14. Rac1 Qg6 15. g3 Qf5 16. Ne1 Qh3 17. f4 Na7 18. Bf3 f5 19. Qg2 Qh6 20. Qe2 Nc6 21. a3 g5 22. Nd3 Bxf3 23. Rxf3 g4 24. Rf2 Bf6 25. Qf1 Rf7 26. Rfc2 Kh8 27. Bc3 Rg7 28. Rb1 Na7 29. a4 c6 30. Be1 Rag8 31. Nc1 Rg6 32. Na2 Qf8 33. Nc3 Nc8 34. b5 axb5 35. axb5 Qg7 36. Bf2 Rh6 37. bxc6 bxc6 38. Qa6 Ne7 39. Rb7 Qg6 40. Rc7 Rb8 41. Rb7 Qe8 42. Rcb2 Rd8 43. Qb6 Rc8 44. Rb8 Rg6 45. Na4 Rg7 46. Qb7 Rxb8 47. Qxb8 Qxb8 48. Rxb8 Rg8 49. Rxg8 Kxg8 50. Kf1 Kf7 51. Ke2 Nc8 52. Kd3 h6 53. Kc2 Na7 54. Nc3 Bh8 55. Kb3 Bf6 56. Ka4 Bd8 57. Be1 Ke8 58. Na2 Nb5 59. Nc3 Nxc3 60. Bxc3 Bf6 61. Ka5 Bg7 62. Kb6 Kd7 63. Kb7 Bf6 64. Ba5 h5 65. Kb8 h4 66. Kb7 h3 67. Be1 Bd8 68. Bd2 Bc7 69. Be1 Bd8 70. Bf2 Ba5 71. Kb8 Bb4 72. Kb7 Ba3 73. Kb8 Bb2 74. Kb7 Bc3 75. Kb8 Ba5 76. Kb7 Bd2 77. Kb8 Bc1 78. Kb7 Bd2 79. Kb8 Bc1 80. Kb7 Bd2
  
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Re: 1 Nf3, d4, b3
Reply #1 - 05/17/20 at 07:22:04
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Heuristic wrote on 05/16/20 at 22:51:04:
What would you call that opening? White plays c4 also



It could transpose to something else. Queen's Pawn Game if it doesn't. It might also become a Colle-Zukertort.
  
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What would you call that opening? White plays c4 also
  
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