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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #9 - 06/15/20 at 19:24:28
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One of those blindspots in chess books: we have had dozens of books/DVDs/chessable/etc courses on the London over the last few years, yet it seems it has been decades since someone attempted to cover the mainline QGD for white.
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #8 - 06/11/20 at 19:23:33
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nestor wrote on 06/06/20 at 07:14:50:
I think the answer is no, and it's pretty clear why. After 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Black has the orthodox QGD (4...Be7), the Ragozin (4...Bb4), the Vienna (4...dxc4), the semi-Tarrasch (4...c5), and of course the semi-Slav (4...c6), all of which have been the subject of entire books in their own right from Black's perspective (and 4...Nbd7 and 4...a6 are also very playable). A White repertoire book covering main lines would therefore be enormous, even if it started at 4.Nc3 and omitted earlier deviations.

There is one repertoire book featuring mostly sidelines, namely A Cunning Chess Opening Repertoire for White, by Graham Burgess (Gambit, 2013). He goes for:
  • 4...Be7 5.Bf4 (a big main line of course, but not 5.Bg5 as you proposed)
    4...Bb4 5.Qb3
    4...dxc4 5.Qa4+
    4...c5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.g3
    4...c6 5.g3 (a proper gambit after 5...dxc4)

Please also note that Burgess's move order is 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 (or 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5). He's a very reliable author, so if the above lines appeal to you, this may be as good as you'll get at the moment.


Thanks for the answer nestor,
Bf4 vs the QGD Mainline is a line I also like and i got good positions in Blitz with either Rd1 or 0-0-0. However, the Sidelines against the other tries dont appeal to me, I prefer Lines like the Bc4 Gambit or the Bg5 Mainline against the Vienna or the Bg5 Lines vs the Ragozin.
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #7 - 06/07/20 at 11:05:44
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I like the Sielecki book very much too, but in most cases c4 is delayed a few moves. It is more of a Catalan approach.
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #6 - 06/06/20 at 16:30:07
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LeeRoth wrote on 06/06/20 at 15:38:17:
From the 1.d4 move order, I recall Richard Palliser's Play 1.d4, which I think post-dated at least some of the Kramnik series.  It is/was an excellent book, and the QGD lines are probably still somewhat relevant or easily updatable.

I was reminded of that one too.  It used the move order 1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bg5 and dealt with the Tartakower, Lasker and Orthodox (avoiding other main lines by means such as Nbd2).
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #5 - 06/06/20 at 15:38:17
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I can't think of a 1.Nf3 source that answers 1..d5 with 2.d4 and heads into the main lines of the QGD.  Forum member B Paulsen was working on a 1.Nf3 book, but I don't know if it was published or what it recommended. 

From the 1.d4 move order, I recall Richard Palliser's Play 1.d4, which I think post-dated at least some of the Kramnik series.  It is/was an excellent book, and the QGD lines are probably still somewhat relevant or easily updatable.




  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #4 - 06/06/20 at 09:15:33
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nestor wrote on 06/06/20 at 07:14:50:
There is one repertoire book featuring mostly sidelines, namely A Cunning Chess Opening Repertoire for White, by Graham Burgess (Gambit, 2013).

I found this book a very interesting read.
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #3 - 06/06/20 at 09:14:17
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TonyRo wrote on 06/04/20 at 13:51:10:
I am guessing Keep It Simple: 1.d4 will cover second move deviations, but not third, as Sielecki's choice was 3.g3 I believe. It's a really nice book overall though, well worth having.

I like this book very much!
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #2 - 06/06/20 at 07:14:50
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I think the answer is no, and it's pretty clear why. After 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Black has the orthodox QGD (4...Be7), the Ragozin (4...Bb4), the Vienna (4...dxc4), the semi-Tarrasch (4...c5), and of course the semi-Slav (4...c6), all of which have been the subject of entire books in their own right from Black's perspective (and 4...Nbd7 and 4...a6 are also very playable). A White repertoire book covering main lines would therefore be enormous, even if it started at 4.Nc3 and omitted earlier deviations.

There is one repertoire book featuring mostly sidelines, namely A Cunning Chess Opening Repertoire for White, by Graham Burgess (Gambit, 2013). He goes for:
  • 4...Be7 5.Bf4 (a big main line of course, but not 5.Bg5 as you proposed)
    4...Bb4 5.Qb3
    4...dxc4 5.Qa4+
    4...c5 5.cxd5 Nxd5 6.g3
    4...c6 5.g3 (a proper gambit after 5...dxc4)

Please also note that Burgess's move order is 1.d4 d5 2.Nf3 Nf6 (or 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5). He's a very reliable author, so if the above lines appeal to you, this may be as good as you'll get at the moment.
  
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Re: Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
Reply #1 - 06/04/20 at 13:51:10
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I am guessing Keep It Simple: 1.d4 will cover second move deviations, but not third, as Sielecki's choice was 3.g3 I believe. It's a really nice book overall though, well worth having.
  
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Books/Sources QGD Mainline with 4.Nf3 (Be7 5.Bg5)
06/04/20 at 10:07:13
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Hey, have there been any Sources since the older Kramnik 1.Nf3 Books that cover the position after 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 e6 4. Nc3 (intending Be7 5.Bg5) and the deviations possible in the second and third move?
  
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