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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #6 - 03/29/21 at 10:43:33
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Gambit wrote on 03/27/21 at 19:13:00:
There is the Sicilian Nimzovich, 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nf6, which I play quite a bit these days. Very sharp and unorthodox.


I made a mistake last year and enter a thematical corr event. The events started after 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.e5 Ng4 4.h3 Nh6 and was called "Brohinka variation". I belive Rolf Martens invented it. Its the worst opening I have ever play thematical events in. White gets a large advantage in most lines, both by transposing to Morra or even c3 is much better for white. There also some other lines that gives white a advnatage. The player that gets most draws with black wins that tournament. I will not post any games or give more destails.
  
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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #5 - 03/28/21 at 00:12:11
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2.Nc3, 3.Nge2 can be most effective against narrow Najdorf players and against Kan players. The latter because white can keep it open whether playing d3 or d4. Black has to be alert.

It is not effective against the Dragon as white shows Closed Sicilian cards a bit too early. Straight f4, Be3, Nge2, Nf3, Nh3 are options. Better not reveal too early, but only on moves 5,6,7. Meanwhile black will always fianchetto - open or closed.

2.g4 - idea? A ‘big’ fianchetto? Is better to stay flexible as yet, most likely. Just looks bad so early, tbh. But, yes, it’s often a good idea to avoid heavy theory v Dragon players.

Options v Dragon players. Closed, GPA, Moscow or the newish 2.Nc3, 3.d4 4.Qxd4, 5.Qd2 thingy. 2.c3 Alapin too.

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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #4 - 03/27/21 at 23:39:46
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Gambit wrote on 03/27/21 at 19:13:00:
The Sicilian Dragon is an interesting and well-known opening. Some lines have been analyzed ad infinitum, which is why I do not play it. After all, why bother playing something that is too heavily analyzed when you can take your opponents out of the book with an unorthodox line?

For example, 1 e4 c5 2 g4; or 1 e4 c5 2 Nge2; 1 e5 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nge2.

There is the Sicilian Nimzovich, 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nf6, which I play quite a bit these days. Very sharp and unorthodox.

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1.e4 c5 2.g4 on the second move looks ridiculous to me. I don't think I would ever do that.
  
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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #3 - 03/27/21 at 21:27:56
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Depending on the line Black chooses, it can either be mainline or a strange sideline.
  
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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #2 - 03/27/21 at 19:57:56
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MNb wrote on 03/27/21 at 19:26:59:
Several lines have been heavily analyzed as well, especially the sharp 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.dxc5 Bxc5.

Incidentally I noticed that line occurring in a recent online rapid game between Karjakin and Mamedyarov.  After 8.Qxd5 Qb6 9.Bc4 Bxf2+ 10.Ke2 O-O 11.Rf1 Bc5 12.Ng5 Nd4+ 13. Kd1 Ne6 14. Ne4 d6 15. ed Rd8 Karjakin played 16. c3 (not one of the old book moves I'm aware of).
  
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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
Reply #1 - 03/27/21 at 19:26:59
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Just curious - why do you call a variation that has been heavily analyzed as well and is over 100 years old "unorthodox"? It was played by the great Latvian/Dane in San Sebastian 1911. Several lines have been heavily analyzed as well, especially the sharp 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nc3 e6 5.Nxd5 exd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.dxc5 Bxc5.
Also 4.d4 cxd4 5.c3 transposes to the 2.c3 Sicilian - a very popular and regular variation these days.
  

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Re: Unorthodox approaches to avoid the Dragon
03/27/21 at 19:13:00
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The Sicilian Dragon is an interesting and well-known opening. Some lines have been analyzed ad infinitum, which is why I do not play it. After all, why bother playing something that is too heavily analyzed when you can take your opponents out of the book with an unorthodox line?

For example, 1 e4 c5 2 g4; or 1 e4 c5 2 Nge2; 1 e5 c5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Nge2.

There is the Sicilian Nimzovich, 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 Nf6, which I play quite a bit these days. Very sharp and unorthodox.

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