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Re: 3 Nc3 d6 4 Be3 a6 5 Qd2 b5 6 0-0-0 Nd7 7 h4 h6!?
Reply #1 - yesterday at 00:15:28
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Hi.

Some experimental thought, but both 8.e5 and 8.Bd3 are interesting with this move order (or a 6.h4 one). They seem like untried ideas though. Maybe you even try to avoid the first (8.e5). E.g.

1.e4 d6 2.d4 g6 3.Nc3 Bg7 4.Be3 a6 5.Qd2 b5 6.h4 h6
6...Bb7 7.h5 Seems not good to allow.
6...Nf6 is a Pirc
6...h5!?
7.0-0-0
7.Bd3 Nd7 8.f4
8.0-0-0!? and if not moving the bishop to b7, then some other move needs to work like: 8...Nf6, 8...Rb8!? or even 8...c6
8...h5 9.Nf3 Nh6 10.O-O-O
Not having played Bb7 may work in black's favour black here e.g.
10...c6!? 11.f5!? gxf5 12.exf5 b4 13.Ne2!? Qa5 With some counterplay.
7...Nd7
7...Bb7 8.Bd3 Nd7 9.f4 c5
9...h5 10.Nf3 Nh6!? but here Bb7 has been played and this is not necessarily the best version.
10.dxc5 Nxc5
10...b4 11.Na4 Qa5 12.b3
12...Bc6 13.cxd6 Bxa4 14.bxa4 Qxa4 15.Kb1 Seems not that dangerous for white.
12...Nxc5 13.Bxc5 dxc5 14.e5 Is also not overly threatening for white
11.Bxc5 dxc5 12.e5 c4 13.Be4 Qxd2+ 14.Rxd2 Bxe4 15.Nxe4 h5 16.Nf3 Nh6
8.e5!? dxe5
8...Bb7 9.e6!? fxe6 10.Bd3 Nf8 11.Nge2 Nf6 12.f3 Looks like a good version of this type of position for white, but at the same time black is solid in the short term.
9.dxe5 Bxe5 10.h5 g5 11.f4 gxf4 12.Bxf4
12...Bb7 13.Bxe5 Nxe5 14.Qf4 Nd7 15.Nf3 transposes but with one extra move.
12...Bxf4 13.Qxf4 Bb7 14.Nf3 e5 15.Qf5!? Ne7 16.Qh3 (D) This has to be good compensation.

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As for the other more standard move sequences, they are very hard to get to grips with. Maybe I will analyse out (longer not to some absurd level) a couple of the best looking lines.

Have a nice day.
  
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3 Nc3 d6 4 Be3 a6 5 Qd2 b5 6 0-0-0 Nd7 7 h4 h6!?
04/21/21 at 09:58:04
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The ‘Pseudo-Dragon’ lines of the Modern Defence are, I think, hugely strategically complex and absolutely fascinating, whether Black goes for …h5 or …h6. The former may be the ‘main line’, but the latter has been widely endorsed and played, e.g. by Kamsky. As a sweeping generalisation it might be less wild than …h5, but either side can get blown off the board quickly if they don’t watch out …

White normally starts with 8 f3 (8 f4 being met with 8 …h5!) when after 8 …Bb7 White has various tries. Maybe the main line (if there is one) is 9 Nh3, when Black can play the direct 9 …Rc8, idea …c5, or the standard Knight manoeuvre 9 …Ngf6 10 Kb1 Nb6 11 a3 (normally thought necessary to prevent …b4) Nfd7, when Tiger has a long line in his book beginning 12 h5 g5 13 Nf2 Rc8 14 Ng4 c5.

On move nine White can go 9 g4 immediately, but then multiple responses have been suggested for Black: Tiger gives 9 …c5 and 9 …e6; 9…Rc8 has also been played/recommended; and Nemec on Chessable has recently recommended 9 …Ngf6 10 Kb1 Nb6 11 a3 Nfd7. Perhaps more critical is 9 h5 g5 10 Nge2!? (10 d5?! Ne5), when on ChessPublishing the game Nanu-Nevednichy is given; this continued 10 …Nb6 11 Ng3 e6, when 12 Bd3 is given as a bit better for White. But going back to move ten, when I first saw this position I thought, why not just 10 …c5? I can’t argue with GMs, but I notice this is also the choice of Stockfish 13, and looks to hold up (albeit on my still-to-be-replaced PC)?

Maybe Black’s basic strategies in all this boil down to two (a quick …c5 with or without …Rc8, or a quick …Nb6/…Ngf6/…Nfd7 intending …b4), but deciding which plan to implement when given all the different move orders is quite a thing! In this context the latest ChessPub update by Justin Tan has me perplexed. Annotating the game So-Nepo, which went 8 …Nb6 9 Bd3!? (another try!) Bb7 10 Nh3 e6 11 g4 Ne7, Tan suggests here 12 h5 g5 13 Kb1, teeing up for f2-f4, as a big advantage for White, and since he gives no other moves the implication (intended or otherwise) is that the whole …h6 system is under a cloud. But 10 …e6 isn’t forced, so I want to know what’s wrong with 10 …Ngf6, when, after 11 g4, both 11 …Nfd7 and 11…h5 have been successfully played. And secondly, after the ‘normal’ 8 …Bb7 (iso 8 …Nb6) 9 Nh3, Black still has 9 …Rc8 as given above (Tiger p. 170).

Thoughts?
  
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