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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #31 - 05/11/21 at 12:42:46
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Paddy wrote on 05/04/21 at 00:00:15:
In Banter Blitz e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3sDigCx7s4
Shankland


Did Shankland and his highly rated opponent repeatedly miss a skewer winning a rook in the video? After h5 White plays Rc8ch,  the black king moves, and Rxc3. If black then plays b2, threatening to queen, white plays Rb3 and nabs the pawn. Or if black plays Kb4 holding the pawn and attacking the rook, White can take the pawn, now or later, and still win the resulting pawn ending.

This can be found at 59:50 in the video. What am I missing?
  
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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #30 - 05/09/21 at 15:54:02
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doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 16:13:08:
I'm truly sorry I made a typo and was too lazy to include the whole line. And I'm also sorry that I didn't apologize. I hope you guys can forgive me.


As you are so gracious, I forgive you. And the next time you post (an incorrect) move like "Khalifman's 8.Nxd5" I will immediately stop what I am doing and play detective so that I can help answer your question.
  
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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #29 - 05/08/21 at 12:30:03
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FreeRepublic wrote on 05/07/21 at 17:41:47:
najdorfslayer wrote on 05/06/21 at 05:57:04:
Also the 6 Bc4 Qb6 lines seem to be scantily brushed over.


Is 6...Qb6 his answer to 6Bc4 ?

I take it that his main line is:
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 Be7 Is that correct?

Does he provide any coverage of 9...b5?

From the little I've seen, I suspect that he has done good work on the equally important 9f3. If he can put that to bed, that is quite a benefit to those who play the Classical.


Yes he recommends 6...Qb6 but coverage it VERY light indeed. As is all his other 6th moves options other than 6 Bg5.

Yes he gives 9...Be7 and this is coveted quite well, but no 9...b5
  
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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #28 - 05/07/21 at 18:17:20
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Curiously in Banter Blitz he has faced 9. f4 many times, but I don't recall anyone playing 9. f3.
  
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Reply #27 - 05/07/21 at 17:41:47
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najdorfslayer wrote on 05/06/21 at 05:57:04:
Also the 6 Bc4 Qb6 lines seem to be scantily brushed over.


Is 6...Qb6 his answer to 6Bc4 ?

I take it that his main line is:
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 Nc6 6. Bg5 e6 7. Qd2 a6 8. O-O-O Bd7 9. f4 Be7 Is that correct?

Does he provide any coverage of 9...b5?

From the little I've seen, I suspect that he has done good work on the equally important 9f3. If he can put that to bed, that is quite a benefit to those who play the Classical.
  
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Reply #26 - 05/07/21 at 16:28:22
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OK, this time I'll make an exception and accept your apologies. Make sure it won't happen again or I'll send Rutte and Hoekstra to sensibilisize you.






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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #25 - 05/07/21 at 16:13:08
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I'm truly sorry I made a typo and was too lazy to include the whole line. And I'm also sorry that I didn't apologize. I hope you guys can forgive me.
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #24 - 05/07/21 at 15:45:21
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dali wrote on 05/07/21 at 14:18:08:
ah, someone else did. still, you can't typo a standalone move and expect people to know what you meant.


doormat didn't even apologise for the inconvenience of the misleading error, which could have been easily avoided by posting the preliminary moves to begin with. Hard to imagine posting a one move line, and still managing to get it wrong.

@doormat

Attention to detail is another reason I was able to spot some issues with Sam's course so quickly. It's my curse.

Postscript: I highlighted the text, partly because I figured there was a more than 50% chance it would be shown to be a careless mistake.
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #23 - 05/07/21 at 14:18:08
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ah, someone else did. still, you can't typo a standalone move and expect people to know what you meant.
  
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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #22 - 05/07/21 at 13:58:45
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dali wrote on 05/07/21 at 13:05:29:
doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 12:11:15:
TopNotch wrote on 05/07/21 at 11:33:12:
doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 06:04:37:
In his past courses he checked all kind of other repertoire books but here there's no mention of Khalifman's 8.Nxd5 from 'Squeezing the Sicilian' in the Alapin mainline.
But maybe I'm nitpicking here


I presume you mean 8.Bxd5 which BTW is not Khalifman's recommendation in 'Squeezing the Sicilian'.



1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 dxe5 8.Nxe5

This is what Khalifman suggests, Shankland only covers dxe5

Only Khalifman has Nf3 before d4. Chapter 19


you literally highlight your own mistake and yet expect others to know what you meant?!


I didn't highlight anything.
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #21 - 05/07/21 at 13:05:29
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doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 12:11:15:
TopNotch wrote on 05/07/21 at 11:33:12:
doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 06:04:37:
In his past courses he checked all kind of other repertoire books but here there's no mention of Khalifman's 8.Nxd5 from 'Squeezing the Sicilian' in the Alapin mainline.
But maybe I'm nitpicking here


I presume you mean 8.Bxd5 which BTW is not Khalifman's recommendation in 'Squeezing the Sicilian'.



1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 dxe5 8.Nxe5

This is what Khalifman suggests, Shankland only covers dxe5

Only Khalifman has Nf3 before d4. Chapter 19


you literally highlight your own mistake and yet expect others to know what you meant?!
  
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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #20 - 05/07/21 at 12:30:17
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doefmat wrote on 05/04/21 at 21:39:59:
TopNotch wrote on 05/04/21 at 13:11:42:
This course seems to have been rushed out so that Sam can focus on his return to OTB chess. It's a lot less thorough than his other Chessable stuff and does not quite fit in with the Lifetime Repertoire ethos. Moreover the Beta Testers as is all too common do a sloppy job in picking up errors and omissions that should have been caught before this product hit the shelves so to speak.

Now within hours of the course release buyers have to wait on  reported missing video and missing lines to be eventually updated.  Very disappointing.


Isn't this judgement a bit premature? How can you look at this course thorough after one day of release?


Another review that echoes my sentiments, and judging by the reception I would say this will quickly emerge as the prevailing view:  https://www.chessable.com/discussion/thread/393645/review-disappointing/

Anyone that has Sam's other chessable courses can't help but notice that this effort was far below his usual standard.
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #19 - 05/07/21 at 12:11:15
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TopNotch wrote on 05/07/21 at 11:33:12:
doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 06:04:37:
In his past courses he checked all kind of other repertoire books but here there's no mention of Khalifman's 8.Nxd5 from 'Squeezing the Sicilian' in the Alapin mainline.
But maybe I'm nitpicking here


I presume you mean 8.Bxd5 which BTW is not Khalifman's recommendation in 'Squeezing the Sicilian'.



1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 dxe5 8.Nxe5

This is what Khalifman suggests, Shankland only covers dxe5

Only Khalifman has Nf3 before d4. Chapter 19
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #18 - 05/07/21 at 11:33:12
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doefmat wrote on 05/07/21 at 06:04:37:
In his past courses he checked all kind of other repertoire books but here there's no mention of Khalifman's 8.Nxd5 from 'Squeezing the Sicilian' in the Alapin mainline.
But maybe I'm nitpicking here


I presume you mean 8.Bxd5 which BTW is not Khalifman's recommendation in 'Squeezing the Sicilian'.
  

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Re: Shankland Chessable course on the Classical Sicili
Reply #17 - 05/07/21 at 06:04:37
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In his past courses he checked all kind of other repertoire books but here there's no mention of Khalifman's 8.Nxd5 from 'Squeezing the Sicilian' in the Alapin mainline.
But maybe I'm nitpicking here
  

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