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Re: Stockfish suing ChessBase
Reply #5 - 07/22/21 at 09:10:27
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A funny thing was that Fat Fritz 2 was 2 elo better than Stockfish 13 in blitz but not in rapid and new Stockfish 14 is signifikanly better than Fat Fritz 2 in  both blitz and rapid.
  
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Reply #4 - 07/22/21 at 08:19:50
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If one does not have a Fritz interface program one buys it else no point.

Or else if one does not know how to install engines. I had to help a friend to install Stockfish in hes Fritz program
  
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Re: Stockfish suing ChessBase
Reply #3 - 07/22/21 at 08:17:41
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Why would anybody buy their engines, whether ripped off or not, when you can download Stockfish and Leela for nothing?
  

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Re: Stockfish suing ChessBase
Reply #2 - 07/22/21 at 07:46:39
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Extremly unetical yes but illegal no. I would be surprised if they win.
  
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Reply #1 - 07/21/21 at 23:04:07
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Good. Hope ChesBase get really burned on this.

I bought Fat Fritz 2. I didn’t know all this stuff at the time, sadly. If I had known I would not have purchased. When I found out, I felt like a mug - that hurt. Deep diving the details afterwards, it was illuminating and disturbing to read that Chessbase has repeatedly done this.

Agree with OP - hope ChessBase get their comeuppance here, finally. That the antics of Silver and co are found to be not just highly unethical but plain illegal.
  
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Stockfish suing ChessBase
07/20/21 at 21:24:38
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CB is finally getting its comeuppance for selling an SF derivate and pretending it's their own work  Smiley

https://stockfishchess.org/blog/2021/our-lawsuit-against-chessbase/
( Original statement, in case you missed/forgot the happenings:
- https://stockfishchess.org/blog/2021/statement-on-fat-fritz-2/
- https://lichess.org/blog/YCvy7xMAACIA8007/fat-fritz-2-is-a-rip-off )

Albert Silver, the """developer""" who first copied Leela, then followed up by copying SF12, and proceeded to sell both of those at a ludicrous pricepoint, without anything close to proper credit being given, might finally learn that there is more to being an engine author than thievery and scamming people.

Amusing also, that they were even still selling Houdini 6 (yet another Stockfish reskin) in their shop, again at full price of course..  Roll Eyes

The license breaches were obvious, and their unabashed greed left more than just a sour taste in the mouth of the entire open source chess community. I shall hope they bleed  Smiley
  
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