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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #7 - 07/23/21 at 15:36:50
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Sorry I was a bit harsh. The holes are not in the French bases even though one line was lighty covered even after an update. I refered to 3 other bases where he covered lines like in one case writing black gets attack when whites counter attack is much faster. The French bases helped me get a CCE title. I only meant he realises bases at a high tempo. I also liked several of hes none opening bases. I think we get back to Dragon discussion.
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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #6 - 07/23/21 at 15:24:05
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bragesjo wrote on 07/23/21 at 10:51:58:
Marin is like ModernChess version of Lakdawala in terms of writing opening stuff. He is a strong player and has written many good bases even for ModernChess but in more than 3 bases there are incorrect concrete opening recommendations where opponents gets a large edge.


Please, don't tell me the other holes are in his French repertoire databases for Black. I had them, but did not checked them in detail with Stockfish. I intended to give then a chance (especially the Winawer lines).

I considered Marin a totally trustworthy author. I even considered buying his quality chess books on the Dutch (I assume there are more people checking lines in a book, btw).

thx to pointed this out to us
  
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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #5 - 07/23/21 at 14:24:49
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That’s unduly harsh, I’m sure. Saying an author is like Lakdawala is the worst of possible insults. Worse than insulting someone’s grandmother.

If there is a special hell designated for chess writers, the first to burn in caissic eternal damnation are the ghastly triumvirate of Keene (plagiarism), Schiller (just plain bad), Lakdawala (prose style, volume of thundering irrelevance). 

*Back to the ranch*

To the database, I’ve not seen it, and it does surprise me admittedly to see Marin writing about the Dragon. Holes spotted bragesjo? I know you’re a real theory guru on this.



  
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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #4 - 07/23/21 at 10:51:58
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Marin is like ModernChess version of Lakdawala in terms of writing opening stuff. He is a strong player and has written many good bases even for ModernChess but in more than 3 bases there are incorrect concrete opening recommendations where opponents gets a large edge.
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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #3 - 07/23/21 at 08:49:14
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The base has several explanation video chapters.

Looking at the repertoar most lines look like main
9 000 d5 Kb1 Nxd4 with exf6
9 00 d5 Qe1 e5 meeting the topical 14 Kb1 with Re8.

9 g4 yugoslav Be6

9 Bc4 yugoslav Rc8 meeting h4 with h5 or Topalov Nxd4 B5 system

So mainly looks likn only e5 vs 900 with Bd4 that look a bit odd vs Yugoslav attack.

The base is comple repertoar so every 00 system is also  covered

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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #2 - 07/23/21 at 08:37:26
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XChess1971 wrote on 07/23/21 at 05:39:39:
Well it is good to know. If there is not much explanation or no explanation at all. Chances are the GM didn't do a thorough investigation.

I don’t understand that. You may not like Marin’s recommendations, but I’ve never heard it suggested that he doesn’t provide enough explanation.
  
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Re: Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
Reply #1 - 07/23/21 at 05:39:39
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bragesjo wrote on 07/22/21 at 13:16:13:
For those interested Marin made a new Dragon opening database for ModernChess. Some odd locking recommendatios like e5 vs Bd4 in 9 000 line.

Not shure I would trust the base, I will lose 2 rated Correspondence Chess games in other openings where Marins ModernChess bases had analytical errors and Stockfish 14 thinks 1.5 pawns better for opponent already in opening fase and almost lost an other game as well but hes recommendation looked to illegal so I computer checken and diverted and drawed.


Well it is good to know. If there is not much explanation or no explanation at all. Chances are the GM didn't do a thorough investigation.
  
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Dragon repertoar by Marin from ModernChess
07/22/21 at 13:16:13
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For those interested Marin made a new Dragon opening database for ModernChess. Some odd locking recommendatios like e5 vs Bd4 in 9 000 line.

Not sure I would trust the base, I will lose 2 rated Correspondence Chess games in other openings where Marins ModernChess bases had analytical errors and Stockfish 14 thinks 1.5 pawns better for opponent already in opening fase and almost lost an other game as well but hes recommendation looked to illegal so I computer checken and diverted and drawed.
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