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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #12 - 08/30/23 at 13:48:40
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Yet an other game same line. See a pattern?

https://www.iccf.com/game?id=1408256
  
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Reply #11 - 07/31/23 at 05:29:42
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I noticed that the game I mentioned vs Cheparinovs line is already viewable to public. Cheparinov line goes up to a4 but only analysed c5 as reply where he gave the move Ka2+=

https://www.iccf.com/game?id=1399303

I will make some annotations in the future post I mentioned. I can also add my opponent and I had the same rating in the period when game was completed, the site shows only rating at pairing .
  
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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #10 - 07/29/23 at 13:42:47
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I will soon make a post I hinted on after I completed some more ongong games. I can only add that I met Cheparinovs very so called improvment in a Correspondence Chess game where I played a slight improvement and sacrificed a pawn to activate rock and after rock exchange I sacrificed one more pawn to get a fortress where win is impossible due to opposete color Bishops thus we took a draw.

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This is not critic vs Cheparinov. His Kings Indian base for black was very good including in Correspondence Chess but some lines like this anti Dragon line and some lines in his Ruy Lopez base for white do not work in Correspondence Chess. I am probeby not the target group.
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Reply #9 - 06/07/23 at 10:36:47
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Not relaterade to post but Cheparinov released a base at ModernChess about  d6 sicilians for white. He says that white is playing 16 different llines vs Najdorf and recommends Bd3 as a practical line for white vs Najdorf. Vs Dragon he goes 9000 yugoslav d5  Bd4 lines, saw some new moves in different lines including a novelty where he and Giris book met assesing the engame as +=. Quick computer check indicates my assesement that whites position is more easy to handle but nothing new.
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Reply #8 - 06/05/23 at 06:37:19
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Hi.

As white you might get a lot of 2...Nc6 Symmetrical English positions e.g.
1.c4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.g3 g6 4.Bg2 Bg7 5.0-0
They are quite flexible for black. I'd recommend switching with 3.d4 sometimes as well.

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Reply #7 - 06/03/23 at 20:01:55
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RivertonKnight wrote on 06/03/23 at 12:50:09:
Bragesjo seems to get positions he wants on the board according to his post  Wink


Well at Lichess lower rated tends to play craplines vs Dragon and I won over some IMs in Lichess Bundesliga in critical lines like 9000 Bd4 and 900 Qe1 etc.
  
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Reply #6 - 06/03/23 at 12:50:09
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Bragesjo seems to get positions he wants on the board according to his post  Wink
  
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Reply #5 - 06/03/23 at 09:07:26
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I agree with TonyRo. In a must win game vs much lower rated one play one could try something like Kalachnikov instead but on the other hand most lower rated does not play open sicilian. Kings Kalachnikov books lines holds in Correspondence Chess, I have played the black side in multiple ICCF games.
  
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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #4 - 06/02/23 at 14:12:22
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Like Bragesjo said, I think the main issue is not with the objective evaluation of the Dragon - Black is going to equalize somewhere, it's just that you don't really get what you want out of it anymore. The Dragon lines everyone is super excited to play as Black are not the ones that equalize, and the lines that White players are trying now are tremendously unpalatable.

Regarding the point of this overall system, I don't get it. Sure, you put your bishop on g2/g7 in all the lines and push your c-pawn, but the similarities end there. Besides possibly reaching a Benoni or Dragon Reversed in roughly 1% of your games, it's just not gonna matter. Chess is not a one-sided game - where your opponent placed their pieces matters.
  
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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #3 - 06/02/23 at 12:41:06
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About Dragon is has a reputation of being refuted. First it was 9 000 d5 Qe1 and later that 000 d5 with Bd4. Also rumored to be refuted becouse of Bc4 Yugoslav

Najdorf has not the same reputation but has even more theory since only critical in Dragon is 9 000 yugoslav and 9 Bc4 Yugoslav while even h3 in Najdrof needs to be taken seriously appart from Bg5 system or English attack etc etc.

I have preprared a a Dragon conclusion to be posted when I have completed some ongoing games at ICCF. I can make a short preview here. Bc4 Yugoslav is not a seriois winning try for white anymore. I alreay played multiple easy draws at ICCF in Nxd4 Bxd4 Be6 system. Ironical enugh Fischer comment "Sac, sac mate" are form that line while Giris shows an easy improvment where whte has nothing. White has not realy anthing in early Bb3 Nxd4 b5 etiher and nothing speical in Rc8 Nxd4 b5 system either or in early h4 h5. Problem with Rc8 with Ne5 is early Kb1.

Why Dragon is not played is becouse of 9 000 yugoslav in the Bd4 line. Whites position is more easy to handle in the line where latest books from both sides met but if black now 3 key lines 5 moves deep from that they met position its a easy draw including at ICCF.

I will however not post and games here.
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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #2 - 06/01/23 at 23:50:21
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Where you from Benford?
  
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Re: The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
Reply #1 - 05/31/23 at 06:11:43
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Not the Dragon Proper - 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 c5 4.Nc3 forces Black to play the Accelerated Dragon anyway.
  
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The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system
05/31/23 at 03:26:31
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The English-Dragon-Benoni universal system consists in playing c4, g3, Bg2, Nf3, O-O, d3, in some order, with both colors, against absolutely everything, regardless of what the opponent does.

As White: English Fianchetto variation
As Black against 1.e4: Sicilian Dragon or Accelerated Dragon or Hyper-Accelerated Dragon
As Black against 1.d4: Modern Benoni
As Black against 1.c4 and 1.Nf3: Symmetrical English

What do you think about this universal system?

Would it be a good idea to adopt this universal system?

The Sicilian Dragon and the Modern Benoni are playable, but they are objectively not very good for Black. Among super-GMs (2700+):
- the Dragon is played 20 times less commonly than the Najdorf
- in the Sicilian, the move 2...g6 (Hyper-Accelerated Dragon) is played 60 times less commonly than 2...d6
- after 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4, the move 2...c5 (Modern Benoni, Czech Benoni, Benko Gambit) is played 20 times less commonly than 2...g6 (KID, Grunfeld) and 50 times less commonly than 2...e6

Are there any ways for my opponent to prevent me from playing the universal system or to cause me serious problems?

Should I play the Dragon or the Accelerated Dragon or the Hyper-Accelerated Dragon? Which of the three Dragons fits best with the rest of the universal system? Or perhaps even the Pterodactyl?
  
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