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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #6 - 09/27/23 at 02:27:20
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FreeRepublic - Thanks for pointing out that White repertoire by Castellanos. As you noted, he and Moskalenko both favor 11.b3. It's significant that two strong players came to the same opinion. Meanwhile, Stockfish evaluates the position in your diagram in Reply #3 as close to equal. Perhaps both can be true - White's position may be easier to play as noted by Castellanos, while Stockfish can hold as Black. Whether a mere human can do so might be another story.

Far be it for me to contradict a titled analyst, but just playing Stockfish's top moves from the diagram shows that Black may not as lacking in counterplay as Castellanos suggests.  It seems that he can try ...Nb4 (forcing the d3-bishop to d1, blocking the rook) and then follow with ...Rc8, with play down the c- and f-files.

BTW - in researching this line, I found that GM Matthias Bluebaum has played the formerly obscure 7...f6 vs the Universal System multiple times this year, albeit only in blitz and rapid games. Apparently this hasn't constituted enough of a trend to be noted in Chess Publishing, where the only two mentions of 7...f6 are from 2013 and 2014.
  
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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #5 - 09/26/23 at 15:18:52
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Nernstian59 wrote on 09/25/23 at 20:06:36:
It's definitely an interesting position after 13...Be8. BTW - I'm reminded of your recent analysis in the thread on the Universal System, where the maneuver ...Bd7-e8 also proved to be useful.

https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342015696/6#6


I am definitely losing the thread, making related comments on different threads. I ran across Positional Repertoire against the French, by IM Renier Castellanos, 2017, updated 2018 (Modern-chess). It's a Tarrasch French repertoire. On this line he states:  "11b3, White will put his bishop on b2 taking full control of the e5-square. White’s play is much easier, and Black is totally without counter-play."

Castellanos and Moskalenko are in agreement. In that sense at least, 11b3 can be dubbed the main line. However the few games that I am aware of have been mixed.

I like your summary:
" A cursory check of the Mega Database indicates that Black can try to meet White's plan with 11...0-0 12.Bb2 Bd7 13.Ne5, and now 13...Be8 has been doing OK statistically. ChessBase flags this as a "hot" variation, and Stockfish evaluates the position as equal."
  
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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #4 - 09/25/23 at 20:06:36
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FreeRepublic wrote on 09/25/23 at 00:16:42:
I like Moskalenko's insights, humor, and breadth of coverage. However, he may not provide exhaustive analysis of a variation.

I agree that Moskalenko can be an entertaining writer, and you're right about the instances where he doesn't go deeper in his analyses. I seem to recall someone describing his books as conversations with the reader where he says, "Oh, here's any interesting idea, and this move looks kinda intriguing..."

FreeRepublic wrote on 09/25/23 at 00:16:42:
He could have followed both moves, especially as 11.Re1 is natural and has been played more often.

You've got a good point since 11.Re1 is more popular and seems natural. Perhaps Moskalenko felt that covering just 11.b3 was sufficient since he thought it led to an edge for White. He may have also considered the whole variation to be just a brief note on the presumed sideline 7...f6. As mentioned, his main move was the 7...Qb6 in the Nemec-Pijl game.

FreeRepublic wrote on 09/25/23 at 02:59:17:
NIC Yearbook 139 contains an excerpt from the Fully-Fledged French, and it is this very same chapter!

I completely forgot about that excerpt! And because I have the book, I didn't go searching for the chapter elsewhere. It's definitely an interesting position after 13...Be8. BTW - I'm reminded of your recent analysis in the thread on the Universal System, where the maneuver ...Bd7-e8 also proved to be useful.

https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342015696/6#6
  
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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #3 - 09/25/23 at 02:59:17
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Nernstian59 wrote on 09/24/23 at 22:46:07:
Instead of your 11.Re1, he gives 11.b3!?, with the comment "The knight on d2 is slightly passive; however, with his last move, White is planning Bb2 and Ne5!, which will be difficult to neutralize." Moskalenko ends his analysis of 7...f6 here. A cursory check of the Mega Database indicates that Black can try to meet White's plan with 11...0-0 12.Bb2 Bd7 13.Ne5, and now 13...Be8 has been doing OK statistically. ChessBase flags this as a "hot" variation, and Stockfish evaluates the position as equal.


NIC Yearbook 139 contains an excerpt from the Fully-Fledged French, and it is this very same chapter! Thanks for the continuation (beyond Moskalenko).I proceeded the same as you, to 13...Be8. 14Nxc6, 14Re1, 14h3 and 14f4 have been played. Stockfish considers 14Qf3 and 14Rc1. I think it's an interesting position and will leave it at that!

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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #2 - 09/25/23 at 00:16:42
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Nernstian59 wrote on 09/24/23 at 22:46:07:
Chapter 9 is relatively short, containing two games played with the Universal System.


Thanks for the thorough reply.

Based on past books, and the excerpts available online, I like Moskalenko's insights, humor, and breadth of coverage. However, he may not provide exhaustive analysis of a variation.  For example, "Instead of your 11.Re1, he gives 11.b3!?" He could have followed both moves, especially as 11.Re1 is natural and has been played more often. There are other 11th moves as well.

William Simon covered his chosen line in considerable depth in his book Attacking the French. The flip side is that he only covered his chosen line, which was not 7...f6.
  
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Re: Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
Reply #1 - 09/24/23 at 22:46:07
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FreeRepublic wrote on 09/24/23 at 20:12:39:
Chapter 9 is titled:  Game changer vs the Universal System. I wonder what that could be.

Chapter 9 is relatively short, containing two games played with the Universal System.  Matthew Sadler plays Black in the second game against French GM Fabien Libiszewski, which is apparently the reason for Moskalenko putting "Game Changer" in the chapter title.  In fact, he dedicates the chapter to Sadler and Alpha Zero.

The first game in the chapter is Zdenek Nemec-Richard Pijl, Correspondence 2012. It begins 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc6 7.Ngf3 Qb6 arriving at a position where we exchanged posts in the thread on Miedema's Modernized French Volume 2:

https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1585089764

The correspondence game then continued with the line I quoted from Miedema's book: 8.0-0 cxd4 9.cxd4 a5. Moskalenko describes 9...a5 as a move that "is quite useful and remains a tough nut to crack". He also echoes Miedema's opinion that idea behind 9...a5 is to wait for White to commit before grabbing the d4-pawn. The wait isn't that long in the Nemec-Pijl game since Black takes the pawn on move 11. At move 19, Moskalenko comments that White has some compensation for the pawn, but not enough for an advantage, and the game is drawn on move 34.

You might be interested to know that Moskalenko also looks at 7...f6 in his notes to Nemec-Pijl. He follows the moves you gave in your analysis in this thread:

https://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1342015696/6#6

Instead of your 11.Re1, he gives 11.b3!?, with the comment "The knight on d2 is slightly passive; however, with his last move, White is planning Bb2 and Ne5!, which will be difficult to neutralize." Moskalenko ends his analysis of 7...f6 here. A cursory check of the Mega Database indicates that Black can try to meet White's plan with 11...0-0 12.Bb2 Bd7 13.Ne5, and now 13...Be8 has been doing OK statistically. ChessBase flags this as a "hot" variation, and Stockfish evaluates the position as equal.

Moskalenko uses the second game in the chapter, Libiszewski-Sadler, to explore the variation with 7...Be7, intending ...g5. This is the recommendation in Simon Williams' Attacking Chess: The French and the Chessable course Mastering the French Defense by Bryan Tillis.  It's also covered by Antic and Maksimovic in The Modern French.
  
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Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko
09/24/23 at 20:12:39
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Here's an update to prior works;

The Fully-Fledged French, by Viktor Moskalenko, 2021. An Ebook is available from Forwardchess:
https://forwardchess.com/product/the-fully--fledged-french?section=Search
Paperback and Kindle are available at Amazon. At 350 pages (paperback), it's pretty substantial.

Chapter 9 is titled:  Game changer vs the Universal System. I wonder what that could be.

There are three sample chapters you can peruse, including an on-screen chess viewer.
  
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