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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #7 - 01/17/05 at 05:55:17
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full clarification -

There are 4 volumes but Hardinge Simpole are re-issuing the first and second edition of the volume on the Symmetrical English as separate volumes.

For extra confusion, volumes 1-4 are in Descriptive, but the last is in Algebraic!

Vol 3 - is 1 ... P-QB4
Vol 5 - is 1 ... c5 (1988)

What is the difference between the two editions (besides notation)?  vol 3 appears much longer

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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #6 - 01/16/05 at 22:49:38
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Buy, buy, buy. 'The best opening books I've ever seen' - Jan Timman.

There are a very few lines of course where theory has exploded and the coverage from 25 years ago is inadequate, although the English being what it is this is more a question of ideas for one side or the other not having been discovered yet than tactical refutations of what is written. But for books which combine an overview of (OK, 1980's) theory, general instruction and explanation, and new ideas, you cannot beat them. The 1....e5 one is particularly good, or perhaps I am just biased - it was the first one out and one of my first opening books, and led me directly to a bad 1 c4 habit which lasted for many years.

There were only four volumes in my day, although I think there was a second edition of the Symmetrical one.


Yeah, there are many old books that are not so good for theory any more, but very good for more general ideas of how to play.  Uhlmann's "Winning with the French" is an example.
  

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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #5 - 01/15/05 at 22:18:14
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In my experience the excellent old books are still very useful. The objection that they are old fashioned is not very valid anymore, because there are databases to keep your knowledge actual.
  

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Reply #4 - 01/15/05 at 14:14:57
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Buy, buy, buy. 'The best opening books I've ever seen' - Jan Timman.

There are a very few lines of course where theory has exploded and the coverage from 25 years ago is inadequate, although the English being what it is this is more a question of ideas for one side or the other not having been discovered yet than tactical refutations of what is written. But for books which combine an overview of (OK, 1980's) theory, general instruction and explanation, and new ideas, you cannot beat them. The 1....e5 one is particularly good, or perhaps I am just biased - it was the first one out and one of my first opening books, and led me directly to a bad 1 c4 habit which lasted for many years.

There were only four volumes in my day, although I think there was a second edition of the Symmetrical one.
  
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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #3 - 01/15/05 at 05:25:44
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This is interesting to read.

I found Tony Kosten`s book on the English very good as an introduction to the English, but have since then come to lose confidence in several of the lines he suggests.

I find the books by Carsten Hansen quite "messy" in the sense that it can be quite difficult to find the lines you are searching for.

I tried to search on Amazon for reviews of Watsons books, but couldn`t find any. Does anyone out there own any of Watson`s books and can tell us a little more about them?
  

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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #2 - 01/14/05 at 11:02:42
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http://www.hardingesimpole.co.uk/series/english.htm

here's the reference for those interested
  
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Re: John Watson's books of the English
Reply #1 - 01/14/05 at 09:57:24
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I remember reading Watson's review of Carsten Hansen's Book on the Symmetrical English, and he said that he was surprised at how little had changed, and that many of his conclusions were still valid today.

As regards the other variations of the English, they are probably not as static.
  
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John Watson's books of the English
01/14/05 at 09:45:05
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Hardinge Simpole have just re-issued all 5 volumes of John Watson's work on the English from the late seventies - as recommended in Tony's Review section of Flank OPenings site. 

They're in Descriptive.  Is it still worth looking at (acquiring) these books 25 years later?  Any thoughts?
  
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