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Lev D. Zilbermints
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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #7 - 06/27/05 at 17:29:00
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Okay... I had wanted to post some games later rather than sooner, wanting to organize everything nicely.
However, the asininely stupid analyses that I read here against my gambit forces my hand.  I am posting right now. Before I do so, let me point out several key points:

1. My last name is ZILBERMINTS, not Silberstein.  We are from Poland originally, going all the way back to 1751 (and maybe into the 1520s).

2. I published LOTS OF ANALYSES in BDG #69 and #70.  If you are not too lazy, I suggest you locate these two magazines by using the Internet.

3.  Playing 5-minute games  is good to develop theory.
Since I play on Internet Chess Club, this is where I develop my gambit. Why? The reason is that practically no one plays 7...Nc6 in the Euwe Defense in regular tournaments.

4. Peter Leisebein plays CORRESPONDENCE CHESS. There you get DAYS to analyze your next move. However, in regular over-the-board play, that is not the case. No computers, no crap, no books... Nothing. Just your memory, skill  and brain against your opponent's.

5.  The analyses I saw posted here, with 9...c6 and 9...h6, is superficial, to say the least. Superficial analysis is the main sin of those who claim so-called refutations.

So. Let me see one of you come down all the way to New Jersey (or the Marshall Chess Club in New York City) with a chessboard, pieces, and clock.  Then that person and will play some games. Let us see who will win in a Game/ 30 minutes or G/60 minutes match.

  That all being said, it is time to kick these so called refutations's ass!!

  The games are in the next posting.

  
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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #6 - 06/27/05 at 05:40:32
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9..c6 I think is the main defense, and I dont think that 10.Ne4 is the "right" move here, but Nxd4 or Ne5
and there I found some Leisebein's(he effectively have good result with the Zilbermints gambit but the next analysis seems to refute it, so he uses to play 8.a3 too) analysis going like this after :

10.Nxd4 Qxd4 11.Qe1 Qc5! 12.Qh4 h6 13.Ne4 Nxe4 14.Bxe7 Qxe7 15.Qxe4 f6 -/+

or 10.Nxd4 Qxd4 11.Qe1 Qc5! 12.Qh4 13.Bxf6!? Bxf6 14.Rxf6!? gxf6 15.Qxf6 Rf8 16.Ne4 Qe7 17.Qf4 Kd8 18.Nf6 Bd7 19.Rf1 c5 20.Qe5 Bc6 21.Be4 Bxe4 22.Nxe4 f6 23.Rxf6 Rxf6 24.Nxf6 Rc8 -/+


And Leisebein as wroten some words about the gambit:

"The double pawn sacrifice in the „ Euwe – Defense“ is unclear. After sacrificing a pawn on move 4, a second sacrifice follows on move 8! This double sacrifice is also found in the „Bogoljubow-Defense“

and in the „Teichmann-Defense“ !There it seems to be correct, while here it isn't yet possible to estimate all the consequences.

8.0-0 Sxd4  9.Kh1!  was investigated by the American Lev Zilberstein in the issues of „BDG-WORLD 69 und 70“.

Because there were hardly any games, it is difficult to trust all the analyses"

  
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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #5 - 06/27/05 at 04:48:20
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Well, I had a short look at Zilbermint Gambit last night finding two "refutations":

1.e4 d5 2.d4 dxe4 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.f3 exf3 5.Nxf3 e6 6.Bg5 Be7 7.Bd3 Nc6 8.0–0 Nxd4 9.Kh1

Refutation A) 9..c6! 10.Ne4 Nxe4 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.Bxe4 Nxf3 13.Qxf3 0–0 -/+
 
Refutation B) 9...h6! 10.Bh4 c5 11.Nxd4 cxd4 12.Nb5 e5 -/+ 

I will be quite surprised if someone can prove me wrong. Of course, black has to be super cautious to handle both positions, but there is no "completely safe" way for him available so he must undertake some risk, for two pawns, I will do so Smiley Again and again:)

  
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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #4 - 06/27/05 at 02:45:12
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I will post games when I can. As for Mr. Anonymous Coward, I suggest he learn some manners. As MnB puts it, "Hmpf" is the right answer.

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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #3 - 06/26/05 at 20:50:55
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And this is written by someone called anonymous coward? Hmpf.
That having said, I have also two remarks:

1. Two times before I have requested example games of Zilbermints original idea by its inventor;

2. Schiller provides a lot of analysis on his website (unorthodox openings) and still claims -+.
  

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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #2 - 06/26/05 at 16:06:44
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Here's my contribution.

1.  WRITING IN CAPS = SHOUTING.  Don't do it.

2.  Lev, you're a clown.  Quit it with the self-promotional challenges, the 'I'm the inventor of the greatest gambit in the world' nonsense, and chill out.  Because nobody takes you seriously when you puff your chest out and pretend to be somebody important.

That is all.  Flame away.
  
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Re: BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
Reply #1 - 06/26/05 at 16:04:58
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Here's my contribution.

1.  WRITING IN CAPS = SHOUTING.
  
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Lev D. Zilbermints
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BDG: ZILBERMINTS GAMBIT IN EUWE DEFENSE
06/26/05 at 12:23:37
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This is a new topic. The line in question is this:

1 d4 d5 2 e4 de4 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 f3 (BDG) exf3 5 Nxf3 e6  6 Bg5 Be7 (Euwe Defense) 7 Bd3 Nc6 (Schiller's  1986 recommendation) 8 00! Nxd4 9 Kh1! (Zilbermints Gambit)

Feel free to discuss it here.
  
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