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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #143 - 09/20/05 at 04:23:18
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32 ...Re4 was a good move. Here i can see that both a) 33 Qf2 and b) 32 Qa5 are good


a) 33 Qf2 (threatening Qxf7+ and Nc5+) Re7 34 Rg1 appears quite equal, since black yet has to solve how to bring his knight into the game. But still a lot of play left


b) 33 Qa5 is more forcing :
     b1) Ra4 34 Qe1 and now      
          b11) ....Re4 35 Qa5 =            
          b12) ...f5 35 Qf2 =       
          b13) ...f6 35 Qe8 Re4 36 Nc5+! =

     b2) ,,,,Nf4 34 Nb4 f6 35 Qa6+ =
 
Feel free to critize or come with improvemnts of my lines.
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #142 - 09/19/05 at 21:10:13
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Thank you.

1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3 b5 31.Qd2 Re8 32.Nd3 Re4
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #141 - 09/19/05 at 14:18:27
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Hello Markovich, I am happy to see you back from the hospital!! And happy to see you back to continue our game Smiley

1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3 b5 31.Qd2 Re8 32.Nd3
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #140 - 09/19/05 at 11:10:06
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1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3 b5 31.Qd2 Re8
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #139 - 09/15/05 at 16:03:23
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Still hope you will recover quickly. I was already missing your comments, especially those with which I can disagree.
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #138 - 09/15/05 at 11:51:16
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I am sorry to delay my move here, but I was in the hospital for the past five days (nothing terribly serious), and I've only just been released.  Move soon.
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #137 - 09/05/05 at 10:45:01
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1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3 b5 31.Qd2

The transposition : 30.Qe2 b5 31.Qd2 was also possible, but 30.Qe2 and 30.Qd3 had their own independant lines where I haven't found a better line than 31.Qd2.

  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #136 - 09/05/05 at 08:24:42
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1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3 b5
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #135 - 08/31/05 at 19:54:32
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1.d4 d5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. f3 exf3  5. Nxf3 Bf5  6. Ne5 e6 7.g4 Bg6 8.Qf3 c6  9. g5 Nh5 10.Be3 Nd7 11.Nxg6 hxg6 12.Bd3 Bd6 13.Ne4 Bc7  14. O-O-O Qe7 15.Rhf1 Rf8 16.Bd2 0-0-0 17.a3 a5 18.Bc4 Nb6 19.Bb3 Rxd4 20.Bxa5 Rxd1+ 21.Rxd1 Nd5 22.Bxc7 Qxc7 23.Kb1 Qf4 24.Bxd5 exd5 25.Qh3+ Kc7 26.Nc5 Qd6 27.Qe3 b6  28.Na6+ Kb7 29.Nb4 Rd8 30.Qd3

30.Qd3 and and 30.Qe2 were my first ideas, they are the "positional" choice in this position, and are both similar and can transpose. 30.Qe2 was just as good.

But I was very interested in others ideas, to put fire in the board!!

My first big idea was 30.c4!? (using the fact that b5 has not been played yet, and could be played soon, so this is practically the last try with c4 possible) and Black have to play very precisely, not only to conserve somes advantages, but to not lose also here!! 30..d4 is the best move here, the pawn is becoming more dangerous here than before, so why 30.c4? the response is 31.Qb3! (the point) with awful treaths. Now just somes  good-looking moves, but inaccurate moves by Black to show the danger :

31..Dxh2? 32.c5!
31..Qc7? 32.c5!
31..c5 32.Qf3+! 
31..Qe7 32.Qa4 Qe4+ 33.Ka2 Ra8 34.Re1!
31..Qe6 32.Nd3 Qf5 33.Re1 Kc7 34.c5

With advantage for White.
But I have also worked to find Black best defense, the only one to stay better.

31..Nf4! 32.c5 Qe6 33.Qa4 bxc5 (33..Ra8 34.Qc2 unclear) 34.Qa6+ Kc7 35.Qa5+ Kd7 36.Qxc5 Qe4+ 37.Ka1 Ne6 38.Qc4 Rc8 unclear.

Until now, I was still hesitating between the positional idea Qd3 or Qe2, and the sharp c4, because Black haven't managed to find a clear advantage, I think it's unclear/equal. But there was an improvement for Black, that was sufficient to let me forgive 30.c4!?

This is the critical variation : 30.c4!? d4 31.Qb3! Nf4! 32.c5 bxc5! (yes, that simple move) 33.Nd3+ Kc8 34.Qxf7 Nxd3 35.Rxd3 Qd5 36.Qa7 Qf5 and Black is definitely better.

But another idea came into my mind, Qb3 is the key move after c4, so, can I try to play 30.Qb3 before c4, with the idea to avoir somes defenses?

Let's see somes ideas : 30.Qb3!? f5!? (anticipating the c4 treath)31.c4! Nf4 32.c5 (unclear)

But I think, Black's best choice is 30..Nf4! (oh, again that annoying move) 31.Rf1! (here, c4 has been delayed for another good move, that's an advantage of 30.Qb3 over the immediate 30.c4) f5 32.Nxc6 Kxc6 33.Qa4+ b5 34.Qa6+ Kd7 35.Qb7+ Qc7 36.Qxc7+ Kxc7 37.Rxf4 Re8 was possibly the critical variation, I have regained the material, but now, Black's advantage is no more on material, but on the position. Even if it's a Rook ending with a material equality, I was quite affraid to play the White side here, because Black have the best ending here. But I haven't analyse too deep to know if it's draw or not. So, 30.Qb3 deserve attention, and the final assessment is not clear. 

Someone proposed 30.Rf1, but I think it's the worst of the"main alternatives" for White here, because it's just not as flexible as Qe2 or Qd3.

Is my actual move and plan the best here? I hope so!



  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #134 - 08/30/05 at 01:39:16
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Perhaps I should post this on the other thread, but it was always my impression that August+French=Vacation, and that the country basically shuts down for the month.  Assuming that stereotype still holds, it might expain Prie's delay in responding (along with the French Chmps.).
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #133 - 08/30/05 at 01:21:27
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MNb, I am flattered by your suggestion that I defend the Black side.  It's a little funny that both of my suggestions have been 11...Be7.  It's something I might consider, but I have a lot going on this semester.  I wonder if ArKheiN or Sevenviolets would be interested in the idea at some point.  Though, I must warn you that I have little experience with postal chess and I do not use computers for analysis (well, not yet).  (Actually, I am little curious about how often computers are used in analysis.  From what I hear, it seems like it is close to irresponsible to not use a computer to check one's analysis in postal chess.)  I am open to the idea of a match, but I think I would need some time before I could commit.  I wouldn't want to pull an Eric Prie!  (Where is he?)

I am looking forward to seeing Markovich's approach in this game!  I am confident his moves will do the talking here.
  

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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #132 - 08/28/05 at 08:33:25
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One might wonder what white has in compensation for the pawn, in my view its two things: 

1 The knight is temporarely idle on h5

2 The black king position is rather open

Another line taking those facts into account are 29..Rd8 30  Qd3 b5 31 Rf1 Rd7 32 Qd2!? f6 33 Nd3 Re7 34 Qa5 Re8 35 b4 Ra8 36 Nc5+ Qxc5 37 Qxa8 Kxa8 38 bxc5

The weakend king position and idleness of knight is also felt here.
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #131 - 08/28/05 at 04:00:24
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how do you intend to castle after 10.Nxg6 hxg6 11.Bd3 Qxd4 12.Rf1 Qh4+ 13.Kd1 f5 ? I assume, that even in Belgium castling is prohibited with a king on d1  .


Ok sorry, when I have replyed to this, I haven't read 13.Kd1. I would play 13.Rf2 and after 13..f5, I continue with 14.gxf6 Nxf6 15.Bxg6+ Rd8 and castle-long soon.
For this reason, I have said that 13..Bc5 is surely the best move. I have already done somes analysis on this line before I played the Be3 line, I intended to play it in a separate game, but maybe this will be our future match with Markovich.

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With the pawn on h3 Black has 11.Bd3 Qxd4 12.Nxg6 hxg6 13.Rf1 Qe5+ as I stated in a previous post. This way Black benefits from the hole on g3.


14.Ne2 and now, the hole in g3 is nicely covered. I have 2 wins by Leisebein, one after 14..Qc7 15.Be3 Bd6 and one after 14..Qc7 15.Be3 Bb4+ like in your game : Bocanegra Moreno,R (2346) - Michalek,M (2416)
I don't think this line is particularly good for Black.
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #130 - 08/28/05 at 02:10:31
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I must remind u that kasparov has played such positions with dynamic play for pawn for ages. Now here are some analysis i think will cast doubt on a black advantage. While Rd8-d7 is interesting, it leaves a-file free for a white queen: 

29..Rd8 30  Qd3 b5( looks forced if not ra8 ) 31 Rf1 Rd7 32 Qd2!? Re7(32 ...f6!?)( 32...f5!?) 33 Nd3 f5(f6!?) 34 Qa5 Re4 35 b4 Rc4 36 Re1

This line is not forced but it shows that a Qd2-Nd3-Qa5-b4 setup can be dangerous for black if he chose the rd8-d7 + b5 plan. Black need to find refinements, if he wanna claim aadvantage, agree? Ball is over to black side
  
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Re: ArKheiN - Markovich, 2005, BDG Challenge Match
Reply #129 - 08/28/05 at 01:37:31
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I think X is clearly underestimating whites dynamic chances, and emphasis too much of the extra pawn. Analysis will follow
  
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