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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #8 - 11/18/09 at 21:11:32
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There was an additinal Dragon game that was very complicated played today where  Gashimov was black again and defeated Dominuez. Not shure how to assest it but it was not a Yugoslav attack game either.

[Event "World Blitz"]
[Site "Moscow RUS"]
[Date "2009.11.18"]
[Round "41"]
[White "Dominguez Perez, L."]
[Black "Gashimov, V."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B72"]
[WhiteElo "2719"]
[BlackElo "2758"]
[PlyCount "130"]
[EventDate "2009.11.16"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. h3 Nc6 {is
given a ? mark in Fritz 12 opening book but I see nothing wrong with it} 8. g4
(8. Bc4 {is main alternative} O-O 9. Bb3 Na5 10. O-O b6 11. Re1 (11. Qd3 Bb7
12. Rad1 Rc8 13. f4 Rxc3 14. Qxc3 Nxe4 15. Qb4 Qa8 {black is better ut Rykba
thibnks pretty equal}) 11... Bb7 {equal chanses}) 8... Bd7 9. Bg2 Rc8 10. Qd2
Qa5 (10... Ne5 {with the idea of Nc4 is intersting}) 11. Nb3 Qc7 12. f4 (12. g5
Nh5 13. Nd5 Qd8 14. O-O-O {I think white is slightly better}) 12... Na5 13.
Nxa5 Qxa5 14. Bd4 (14. O-O-O b5 15. e5 b4 16. Nb1 dxe5 17. g5 Qc7 18. gxf6 Bf5
19. c3 Bxf6 20. fxe5 Bxe5 21. Bd4 Bf4 22. Be3 Be5 23. Bd4 Bf4 {draw}) 14... Rc4
15. e5 dxe5 (15... Nxg4 16. hxg4 dxe5 17. fxe5 Bxe5 18. Be3 Bxg4 {leeds to an
exiting Dragon pawns vs Piece position}) 16. fxe5 (16. Bxe5 {is perhaps more
accurate}) 16... Nxg4 17. hxg4 Bxe5 18. Bxe5 Qxe5+ 19. Ne2 Qxb2 20. Rd1 Rc7 21.
Bd5 (21. g5 {looks like a good move to keep blacks pawn down}) 21... Qe5 (21...
Rxc2 22. Qd3 O-O 23. Qe4 Bc6 24. Bxc6 Rxc6 25. Rd2 Qf6 {black is better
accoring to Rybka}) 22. Bb3 a5 (22... h5 23. gxh5 Rxh5 24. Rxh5 gxh5 25. Qd5 {
white is better}) 23. a4 O-O {calm move} (23... h5 24. gxh5 Rxh5 25. Rxh5 Qxh5
{white wins} 26. Qf4) 24. Qd4 (24. Qh6 Qg7 25. Qg5 b6 26. O-O e6 27. Qf4 Rb7
28. Ng3 {white is better}) 24... Qxd4 25. Rxd4 Kg7 (25... b5 26. axb5 Bxb5 27.
g5 Rc5 28. Rdh4 Re5 29. c4 Bc6 30. R1h3 Bg2 31. Rh2 Bf3) 26. Kd2 (26. g5) 26...
h6 27. Nc3 Bc6 28. Re1 e6 29. Nb5 Re7 30. Nd6 Rd7 31. c3 {loses by force} (31.
Ke3 Rfd8 32. Red1 Kf6 33. c3 Ke7 34. Nc4 Rxd4 35. cxd4 {white is better}) 31...
Rfd8 32. Kd3 Rxd6 33. Rxd6 Rxd6+ 34. Kc2 Bf3 35. Rg1 g5 36. Bc4 Bd5 37. Bd3 Bc6
38. Bb5 Bxb5 39. axb5 f5 40. c4 f4 41. Kc3 b6 42. c5 bxc5 43. Kc4 Kf6 44. Rb1
e5 45. b6 Rd8 46. b7 Rb8 47. Kd5 a4 48. Rb6+ Ke7 49. Kxe5 a3 50. Rxh6 a2 51.
Ra6 Rxb7 52. Rxa2 c4 53. Kd4 Rc7 54. Kc3 Kd6 55. Ra6+ Rc6 56. Ra7 Ke5 57. Re7+
Kf6 58. Re8 Kf7 59. Re5 Kg6 60. Ra5 f3 61. Ra2 Rf6 62. Rf2 Rf4 63. Kd2 Kf6 64.
Ke3 Ke5 65. Kd2 Kd4 0-1
  
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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #7 - 11/18/09 at 11:55:49
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It might be some some readers interest to see the games. Also, It appers that Gashimov defeated Ivanchuk when Ivanchuk played Bg5 Bb5 system.
  

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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #6 - 11/17/09 at 22:34:58
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You are probely right that they did not play theire shapest variations. Gashimov lost agianst Grischuk in a 0-0 line where he was at least equal after the opening and drew agianst Judit Polgar where she played g3 system.
  
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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #5 - 11/17/09 at 07:58:25
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I assume that most or the top players won't use their preferred repertoire in a blitz tourn. They save their sharpest weapons for more important games. (Especially given the fact that these blitz games are recorded and published.)
  
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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #4 - 11/17/09 at 03:43:54
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I hardly think Kasparov would be telling him what to play in blitz. Especially since technical variations like the Maroczy Bind require considerable patience and technique to grind out, making it far from ideal in blitz.

It'll be interesting to see if it continues to play a major role in his repertoire in the big games.
  

2288 USCF, 2186 FIDE.

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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #3 - 11/16/09 at 20:36:26
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Seems like Kasparov did not advice him to not play Dragon, at least not accelerated Dragon where white can not enter the Bind. This is a blitz game so both players did not play the most accurate moves and I assume Carlsen lost on time since Rykba shows that the final position is a draw. Both players are well known Dragon players.

[Event "World Blitz"]
[Site "Moscow RUS"]
[Date "2009.11.16"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Gashimov, V."]
[Black "Carlsen, M."]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B35"]
[WhiteElo "2758"]
[BlackElo "2801"]
[PlyCount "154"]
[EventDate "2009.11.16"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nf3 g6 {Gashimov is also a leeding Dragon experts so
this game is interesting} 4. d4 cxd4 5. Nxd4 Bg7 6. Be3 Nf6 7. Bc4 O-O 8. Bb3
d6 9. h3 {if this is white most critical variation the Dragon must be in good
shape} Bd7 (9... Na5 {is my preference eg} 10. O-O b6 11. f4 Bb7 12. Qd3 Nxb3
13. axb3 Nd7 {and is unclear how white should continui. Black is at least equal
}) 10. O-O Qa5 11. Re1 {is given question mark in Fritz 12 opening book} (11.
f4 {is mainline in Fritz 12 opening book nad statistic are cleary in white
favor while Rykba calls it pretty equal}) 11... Rfe8 (11... Rfc8 12. Qd2 Ne5 {
equal}) 12. Qe2 Rac8 13. Rad1 Nxd4 14. Bxd4 Bc6 15. Nd5 Nd7 (15... Bxd5 {is
sinply good for white} 16. exd5) 16. Bxg7 Kxg7 17. Qe3 Nc5 (17... Qc5 {is a
Rybka 3 idea since queen exchange favors black in this position}) 18. Qd4+ e5
19. Qe3 Nxb3 20. axb3 Bxd5 21. Rxd5 Qa2 (21... Rc5 {is given as best move by
Rybka 3} 22. Rd2 (22. Rxd6 Rxc2) 22... Rc6 23. c4 (23. c3 Qb6 24. Qxb6 Rxb6 25.
b4 Kf6 26. g3 Ke6 27. f4 Ra6 {gives white a symbolic advantage}) 23... Qb4 24.
Red1 Re6 25. Rd3 (25. Rd5 a6 26. f3 Rb6 27. R1d3 h6) 25... a6 26. Rc3 Rf6) 22.
Qc1 (22. c4 Qxb2 23. Rxd6 {white is better}) 22... Rc6 23. b4 b6 24. c3 a5 25.
b5 Rc5 26. Red1 Qc4 (26... Rxd5 {is Rybka 3 suggestion} 27. Rxd5 Rd8 {and
white can not make progress}) 27. Rxd6 Rxb5 28. Qg5 Rc5 {loses by force} (28...
Re6 29. Rd7 Rf6 {and white can not make any progress}) 29. Qf6+ Kg8 30. Rd8 Rc8
31. Rxe8+ Rxe8 32. Qxb6 Qxe4 33. Qxa5 Qc2 34. Qa1 Kg7 35. b4 Rc8 36. Rc1 Qb3
37. c4 Qxb4 38. Qxe5+ Kg8 39. c5 Qb5 40. Qd5 Kg7 41. Qd6 Qc6 42. Qd4+ Kg8 43.
h4 h5 44. Kh2 Qc7+ 45. g3 Qc6 46. Rc3 Re8 47. Re3 Rc8 48. Re5 Qc7 49. Rd5 Re8
50. Rd6 Rc8 51. c6 Qa5 52. Qf6 Qf5 53. Rd8+ Rxd8 54. Qxd8+ Kh7 55. Qd4 Qc2 56.
Qf6 Qc4 57. Qd6 Qc2 58. Kg1 Qb1+ 59. Kh2 Qc2 60. Qf6 Qc4 61. Kg2 Qd5+ 62. Qf3
Qc4 63. Kg1 Qc1+ 64. Kh2 Qc4 65. Qf6 Kg8 66. Qd8+ Kg7 67. c7 Qc5 68. Kg2 Qc6+
69. Kf1 (69. f3 {wins}) 69... Qc1+ 70. Ke2 Qc2+ 71. Ke3 Qc3+ 72. Ke4 Qc6+ {I
did not see this game live but I assume Carlsen lost on time here. According
to Rybka 3 the position is a draw!} 73. Ke5 (73. Kf4 Qc1+ 74. Kf3 Qc6+ 75. Ke2
Qc4+) (73. Ke3 Qc3+ 74. Ke2 Qc2+ 75. Ke3 Qc3+) (73. Qd5 Qc2+ 74. Kf3 Qxc7)
73... Qc5+ 74. Kf4 Qc4+ 75. Kf3 Qc6+ 76. Ke3 Qc3+ 77. Kf4 Qc4+ 1-0

  
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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #2 - 09/10/09 at 08:10:07
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Kasparov must have kept his files about the Dragon from his match against Anand.
  
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Re: Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
Reply #1 - 09/09/09 at 14:46:45
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I do not think Carlsen will switch openings. Not shure what he prefeces these days but unless I missread Carlsen has even played Dragons while Kasparov was hes secret trainer.

Kasparov used Dragon as surprise weapon but played mostly Najdorfs.
  
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Carlsen Kasparov and the Dragon
09/09/09 at 12:50:20
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Do you think that Carlsen will play again the Dragon, now that the great Kasparov is his trainer ?
  
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