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GMTonyKosten YaBB Administrator Offline Mr Dynamic? Posts: 3190 Location: Clermont-Ferrand Joined: 12/19/02 Gender:	Re: Blackmar Diemer : Five Pawn Gambit Reply #3 - 03/11/12 at 12:10:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	I've just had a look at the ChessPub Guide and I think that must be 7.Qxf3 instead of 7.Nxf3, so I've edited the original post. Answering the original question: can you call a line an x pawn gambit if you have won a piece for the pawns?


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Gilchrist is a legend God Member Offline Posts: 1039 Location: Manchester, UK Joined: 03/02/10	Re: Blackmar Diemer : Five Pawn Gambit Reply #2 - 03/11/12 at 07:38:03	Post Tools	Print Post
	If 9. Rh2, then does Black not just play 9...Bxd1 and win the queen?

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tp2205 Full Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 218 Joined: 09/11/11	Re: Blackmar Diemer : Five Pawn Gambit Reply #1 - 03/11/12 at 06:30:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	Gambit wrote on 03/10/12 at 19:49:19: In the Vienna Defence to the BDG, after the moves: 1 d4 d5 2 e4 dxe4 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 f3 Bf5 5 g4 Bg6 6 h4 exf3 7 Nxf3 c6 8 h5 Bxc2 9 Rh2 Qxd4 10 Be3 Qxg4 11 Rxc2 Qxh5 12 Qxh5 Nxh5 13 000 Nd7 the critical position arises. Now, in his 2011 book, on page 123, Scheerer gives the passive 14 Nf3? whereupon Black consolidates. I have written earlier here that 14 Nb5!! is the shot that gives White all the attacking chances. So, should this line of the Vienna be called Hara-Kiri, Five Pawn Gambit? No. It should be called the transparent Nf3 gambit. As far as I can tell 12.Qxh5 is slightly illegal. You might consider posting such lines only in pgn format.


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Gambit God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 1397 Location: Newark Joined: 07/26/05 Gender:	Blackmar Diemer : Five Pawn Gambit 03/10/12 at 19:49:19	Post Tools	Print Post
	In the Vienna Defence to the BDG, after the moves: 1 d4 d5 2 e4 dxe4 3 Nc3 Nf6 4 f3 Bf5 5 g4 Bg6 6 h4 exf3 7 Qxf3 c6 8 h5 Bxc2 9 Rh2 Qxd4 10 Be3 Qxg4 11 Rxc2 Qxh5 12 Qxh5 Nxh5 13 000 Nd7 the critical position arises. Now, in his 2011 book, on page 123, Scheerer gives the passive 14 Nf3? whereupon Black consolidates. I have written earlier here that 14 Nb5!! is the shot that gives White all the attacking chances. So, should this line of the Vienna be called Hara-Kiri, Five Pawn Gambit?
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