1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 3.g4!!

Just call me LDZ. 

Guess what I play after 1.e4 ? You have two chances.

Thanks for the warning. I have never stated, that the e6-Dutch is a safe opening, not even against players from equal strength. Instead of Gundersen's 9...Bb4 I propose 9...d5.

This game might be work looking at, it could have transposed from 2 g4 e6!? 3 h3 Nf6 etc.:

[Event "Castle Simul"]
[Site "St Paul MN"]
[Date "1986.09.09"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Agdestein, Simen"]
[Black "Hayward, Keith"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A80"]
[BlackElo "2286"]
1. d4 f5 2. h3 Nf6 3. g4 e6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Nc3 Ne4 6. Nxe4 fxe4 7. Bxe7 Qxe7 8. Qd2 O-O 9. h4 d5 10. f3 e5 11. O-O-O exd4 12. Qxd4 Be6 13. fxe4 Nc6 14. Qa4 d4 15. Bh3 a6 16. g5 b5 17. Bxe6+ Qxe6 18. Qb3 Qxb3 19. axb3 Rae8 20. Nf3 Rxe4 21. Rd2 Rfe8 22. Kd1 Rd8 23. Rh3 Ne7 24. Ke1 Nf5 25. Kf2 Rde8 26. Rh1 c5 27. h5 R8e6 28. c3 Rg4 29. Rhd1 Ng3 30. Rc2 Ne4+ 31. Kf1 Nxg5 32. Nxg5 Rxg5 33. cxd4 Rxh5 34. Rd3 Rf5+ 35. Ke1 cxd4 36. Rxd4 h5 37. b4 Rfe5 38. Rd7 h4 39. Kf1 Rg5 40. Rc3 Rf6+ 41. Ke1 Rg1+ 42. Kd2 Rg3 43. Rd4 Rxc3 44. bxc3 Rh6 45. Ke3 h3 46. Rd1 h2 47. Rh1 Kf7 48. Kf2 Ke6 49. Kg2 Ke5 50. Rxh2 Rxh2+ 51. Kxh2 Ke4 52. Kg2 Ke3 53. Kf1 g5 54. Ke1 g4 55. Kf1 g3 0-1

Good Chess! Keith

Jack,
I can wholehearedly recommend this line for white. However, 3.e4 d5 is good for black (although there are numerous improvements on the Callinan-Saidy game given by Knut. Either 3.Qd3 or 3.h3 are the ways to play this line as white. It seems to be recommended that after 3.h3, black give the pawn back with 3...g3 4.fxg3, which gives black a comfortable game according to "theory". In my mind, and from my experience, this is total nonsense. One game continued 4...Nf6 5.Bg2 d5 6.Nc3 e6 7.e4! c5 (Junior 9's recommendation, apparently) 8.cxd5 cxd4 9.Qxd4 Nc6 10.Qf2! with a clear advantage to white. I have no doubt that there are improvements in black's play, but 3...g3 gives white a decent game in my opinion. (Although I've had several arguments with people here a long, long time ago about this.)

3.Qd3 (or 2.Qd3 d5 3.g4!?) is the alternative, and probably more popular, line. The simple point is that white intends h3 when ...g3 is no longer a threat (since the queen can recapture). Of course, the queen also supports e4 and threatens Qb5+ in some lines. The most common continuation (from our 2.g4 move order) is 3...d5 (3...Nc6 chould be given serious attention and may be critical) 4.h3 Nf6 5.hxg4 Bg4 6.Bh3!? with compensation. However, 6.f3!? Bh5 7.e4!? deserves more attention - after 7...Nc6 8.e5 Bg6 9.Qe3 Nd7 10.Nh3!? Bxc2 11.Nf4 Bf5 12.Bd3!? I was better in a series of training games with a friend (15 minutes for all moves). One game went :

1. d4 f5 2. g4 fxg4 3. Qd3 Nf6 4. h3 d5 5. hxg4 Bxg4 6. f3 Bh5 7. e4 Nc6 8. e5 Bg6 9. Qe3 Nd7 10. Nh3 Bxc2 11. Nf4 Bf5 12. Bd3 e6 13. Ng6 Bxd3 14. Qxd3 Nb4 15. Qd2 c5 16. Nxh8 Rc8 17. Na3 cxd4 18. f4 Nxa2 19. Rxa2 Bb4 20. Qxb4 Rxc1+ 21. Ke2 Rxh1 22. Nb5 Rh2+ 23. Kf3 g5 24. Nd6+ Kf8 25. Kg3 gxf4+ 26. Kxh2 Qh4+ 27. Kg1 Qg3+ 28. Kf1 and white soon won, although black may well have enough for a draw here.

I'm sure both sides have improvements, but hopefully this game serves as an illustration of white's chances in this sort of gambit line - I feel there is more than enough compensation in the lines after Qd3, but my personal preference is the first line.

Hi,

I'm planning to play 1. d4 (I used to play 1. e4 but I want sth new). The main problem now is to find a good variation against the Dutch, not as sharp as the Staunton (1. d4 f5 2. e4) but not one of the main lines.

So I thought about this unusual move and found it an interesting way to build a strong pawn center (after 2. ... fg4: 3. e4) or , if black declines the pawn, to disturb or even destroy blacks attack on the kingside (after eg 2. ... g6 3. g5 !?).

What do you mean? Are there any refutations or just games and ideas you can post?

thanks for your recommendations

Jacky