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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #7 - 08/05/10 at 17:05:50
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Depends on how many games from your repertoire Shipkov has analysed on that CD. That's something you can check yourself; I don't own it.
  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #6 - 08/05/10 at 14:19:35
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I have Chessbase CD by Boris Schipkov - Dutch [A90-A99] (2002)
Is it good enough to get started?

MNb wrote on 08/04/10 at 20:40:21:
HoemberChess wrote on 08/04/10 at 14:00:50:
Are these move-orders against the Dutch 
consistent (in a single White repertoire)?

1.d4 f5 2.Bg5
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 f5 4.Bf4 c6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.e3 
1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 (when I prefer the g1N on h3 if sensible)
1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 f5 _3.Nc3_!? Nf6 4.Bg5

A piece of background information is that I want to avoid the normal Leningrad.

In general this repertoire is consistent. The only snag is that you'll have to learn two lines against the Stonewall: 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 d5 (4...Be7 5.Nc3 0-0 6.Nh3 d6; 4...Bb4+) 5.Nc3 c6 6.Nh3 Bd6/Be7.
Against the Iljin-Zjenevsky (4...Be7) playing the knight to h3 is not generally considered dangerous, but it is certainly not bad either.
Any good book on the Dutch (either written from White's or Black's perspective) should do, especially in combination with a database.

  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #5 - 08/04/10 at 20:40:21
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HoemberChess wrote on 08/04/10 at 14:00:50:
Are these move-orders against the Dutch 
consistent (in a single White repertoire)?

1.d4 f5 2.Bg5
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 f5 4.Bf4 c6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.e3 
1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 (when I prefer the g1N on h3 if sensible)
1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 f5 _3.Nc3_!? Nf6 4.Bg5

A piece of background information is that I want to avoid the normal Leningrad.

In general this repertoire is consistent. The only snag is that you'll have to learn two lines against the Stonewall: 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 Nf6 4.Bg2 d5 (4...Be7 5.Nc3 0-0 6.Nh3 d6; 4...Bb4+) 5.Nc3 c6 6.Nh3 Bd6/Be7.
Against the Iljin-Zjenevsky (4...Be7) playing the knight to h3 is not generally considered dangerous, but it is certainly not bad either.
Any good book on the Dutch (either written from White's or Black's perspective) should do, especially in combination with a database.
  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #4 - 08/04/10 at 15:35:38
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Although it's not the deepest on theory, McDonald's "Starting Out: Dutch Defense" gives a good overview of all the main lines and main anti-Dutch lines. As with everything by McDonald, it's very well written and easy to just sit and read. That might be a good place to start.

  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #3 - 08/04/10 at 14:00:50
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The Avrukh-book is not for me, because this time I don't want my knight to go to f3 so early.

I'll raise the following question in the hope of making things clearer.

Are these move-orders against the Dutch 
consistent (in a single White repertoire)?

1.d4 f5 2.Bg5
1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nf3 f5 4.Bf4 c6 5.Nc3 Nf6 6.e3 
1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3 (when I prefer the g1N on h3 if sensible)
1.d4 d6 2.Nf3 f5 _3.Nc3_!? Nf6 4.Bg5

A piece of background information is that I want to avoid the normal Leningrad. 
(But please don't ask why.)

Is there any other way for Black to invite me into a playable version of the Dutch Defence?
  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #2 - 08/04/10 at 13:05:17
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Avrukh's book is probably your best source on these lines. 

Otherwise, CBM, the NIC Yearbook, Informant and 'Starting Out: 1.d4' are all good sources of information. Cox's coverage is concise yet provides enough theory for most players to start playing the main lines as White.
  

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Re: books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
Reply #1 - 08/04/10 at 13:01:17
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You should be able to search through the Classical and Stonewall Dutch e-books yourself, and I believe Avrukh recommends g3 systems as well. Those two should be enough for you to really dig in. Good luck! Grin
  
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books on "1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3.g3" (Dutch)
08/04/10 at 12:48:39
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I am going to study the White side of _this particular_ sequence. 
(For I have chosen 2.Bg5 against 1..f5.)

Plase recommend sources, such as
-books
-CBM Theory articles
-e-books here
-etc

Thanks!
  

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