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Re: Chinese Dragon - 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8!?
Reply #14 - 06/24/04 at 23:37:01
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Here's a recent game of Anka's with the variation.  Sadly when given the chance to play the Dragon again he chose 2..e6?!.  Clearly he didn't feel it was fair play to breathe fire more than once in the tournament.  Grin

Stanford,Mike [2178] - Anka,Emil [2422] [B78]
Arthur Dake Memorial IM McMinnville, OR (2), 06.06.2004

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 0-0 8.Qd2 Nc6 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8 11.h4 b5 12.Ndxb5 Ne5 13.Be2 Qa5 14.Nd4 Rfc8 15.Nb3 Rxb3 16.cxb3 Qxa2 17.Qc2 Qa5 18.Kd2 d5 19.Ra1 Qb4 20.exd5 Nxd5 21.Qe4 Qxb3 22.Nxd5 Qxb2+ 23.Ke1 Qxa1+ 24.Kf2 Qa3 25.Ra1 Qd6 26.f4 f5 27.Ra6 fxe4 28.Rxd6 exd6 29.Ne7+ Kf8 30.Nxc8 Bxc8 31.fxe5 Bxe5 32.Bxa7 d5 33.Ke3 Kg8 34.Bd4 Bd6 35.Bb2 h5 36.Kd4 Be6 37.Bc1 Kf7 38.Bg5 Bf8 39.Be3 Kf6 40.Bd1 Kf5 41.g3 Bd6 42.Bf2 Bb8 43.Kc3 Be5+ 0-1
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Reply #13 - 06/24/04 at 18:04:19
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GM Emil Anka published the survey about the Chinese Dragon in New in Chess Yearbook 71.

http://www.newinchess.com/Shop/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=191
  
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Re: Chinese Dragon - 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8!?
Reply #12 - 05/09/04 at 12:58:07
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The trapped queen in Chinese Dragon


[Event "CXEB 35 Years - Group B - Corr."]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2004.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Carvalho da Silva, Antonio Augusto"]
[Black "Da Costa Junior, Luiz Roberto"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B78"]
[WhiteElo ""]
[BlackElo ""]
[PlyCount "64"]
[EventDate "2004.??.??"]
 
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2
Nc6 9. Bc4 Bd7 10. O-O-O Rb8 11. Bb3 Na5 12. Bh6 Bxh6 13. Qxh6 b5 14. h4 e5 15.
Nde2 b4 16. Nd5 Nxb3+ 17. axb3 Nxd5 18. Rxd5 Rb6 19. h5 g5 20. Rxd6 f6 21. Rhd1
Rxd6 22. Rxd6 Qe7 23. Rd2 a5 24. Kd1 a4 25. bxa4 Bxa4 26. b3 Bb5 27. c4 bxc3
28. Nxc3 Qc5 29. Nxb5 Qxb5 30. Ke1 Qb4 31. Ke2 Qb6 32. b4 Ra8 0-1
  
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Re: Chinese Dragon - 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8!?
Reply #11 - 04/22/04 at 06:09:29
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There are some independent alternatives after 10.h4 which are interesting, but the main reason most players don't play 10.h4 is due to the Soltis Variation with ...h5.  By playing 10.0-0-0 first White can play the Kb1/g4 system bypassing the respected Soltis line.
  
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Reply #10 - 04/22/04 at 04:01:35
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Sorry for distracting the thread with some nit-picking!

The Chinese does look tempting, actually so much that I may want to take up the dragon again! 

But first just a couple of move order question, that I'm hopefully not the only one to worry about:

What if white plays 10.h4 instead?  (I suppose Rb8 won't be much use when there's no king in front of it.) What would you recommend for black then? Or what is considered soundest for black...

And why does white avoid 10.h4 so often, when it cuts out most of black's early divergencies??
  
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Reply #9 - 04/21/04 at 18:48:36
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Thanks.

But Fide Website was down on the four previous days in a row and became accessible again on April 21st.

GM Emil Anka will publish a very interesting survey about Chinese Dragon in New in Chess Yearbook 71. OK.
  
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Re: Chinese Dragon - 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8!?
Reply #8 - 04/21/04 at 12:49:24
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I find the FIDE website quite useful for determining titles, rating etc. For example http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=700754 gives you information about Emil Anka. I'm not a big fan of FIDE but I think they've done a good job with their website.
  
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Reply #7 - 04/21/04 at 09:11:25
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Thanks.

Player Database of ChessBase is not up-to-date in this case.
  
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Reply #6 - 04/21/04 at 08:01:30
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IM Emil Anka


Didn't he become a GM in 2001? At least, I remember noticing his name in connection with a GM norm in Budapest I think. 

(Kalle Anka is the swedish name for Donald Duck...)

Yes he did http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=GM+Emil+Anka
  
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Reply #5 - 04/21/04 at 07:08:14
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There are 5 games (Chinese Dragon) in Chess Informant 89.

IM Emil Anka will publish a survey about Chinese Dragon in New in Chess Yearbook 71.
  
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Reply #4 - 04/20/04 at 16:43:12
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My apologies for anyone expecting me to post some new hot theory here.  Instead I'm just mentioning a trap that my expert opponent fell into when I had the my first opportunity to play the Chinese Dragon.  After 9.Bc4 Bc7 10.0-0-0 Rb8 11.Bb3 Na5 12.h4 b5 (seems a little safer than 11...Ne5, so far...), now my opponent was apparently afraid of the idea of an open b-file after ...Nc4 (seems many people overlook that White doesn't have to allow that with 13.Bh6 Nc4?! 14.Qg5!) so decided to try and prevent ...Nc4 with 13.Qe2?? (I don't know if this blunder is mentioned in any of the articles on this opening.  Maybe White can try 13.Qd3, but that doesn't seem too great either.)  Anyway, after 13.Qe2 b4 14.Nd5 e5 White doesn't have enough comp for a piece and he resigned on move 29.  (For those keeping score, my results at this tournament put me back over 2000 USCF! Grin)
  
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Reply #3 - 03/09/04 at 11:46:10
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ChessBase Magazine 98

http://www.chessbase.com/shop/product.asp?pid=195&user=&coin=

In the Content of "ChessBase Magazine 98" there is:

"B78 Sicilian Dragon 10...Rb8
GM Dorian Rogozenko looks at the lines that arise after the moves 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 Nc6 8.Qd2 0-0 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8

This system does not have an “official” theory yet. It started to gain popularity after an interesting survey written by Luc Henris in New in Chess at the beginning of the year 2002, where the author entitled the whole variation starting with 10...Rb8 the “Chinese Dragon”. However, at that moment there were just few games available with 10...Rb8 and almost the entire survey was based on Henris' own analysis. Since then many games were played with it, and the present work is based mainly on the games from practice.

In the diagram position Black's idea is obvious – to support the advance of the b-pawn. Often, after b7-b5 followed by Nc6-e5(a5)-c4, the b-file will open and the rook will be perfectly placed on b8. But there are drawbacks as well. In the Sicilian Dragon White usually has the better control in the center, and the last move 10...Rb8 doesn't fight at all against White's supremacy here (the difference can be seen comparing it with the main lines, where the rook comes often to c5 in order to control central squares). Although the rook supports b7-b5, this advance is still sometimes connected with a pawn sacrifice. Finally, the pawn a7 is left without protection which can also play a role in certain lines.

In the diagram position White has several possibilities, but in fact only two of them can be considered as main options: 11.h4 and 11.Bb3. In order to avoid confusion it must be mentioned that the position after 11.Bb3 Na5 can also arise via the move order 10...Na5 11.Bb3 Rb8, which is briefly considered in some theoretical sources.

The Chinese Dragon is still developing, becoming more and more popular (from the total amount of available games, half were played in year 2003). Even lifetime Dragon adherents included it in their repertoire. Although some possibilities haven't been tested in practice yet, it's time to draw first conclusions about the whole variation."

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Reply #2 - 03/05/04 at 08:51:31
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11.h4 b5!? 12.Ndxb5 Ne5 13.Be2 Qa5 14.Nd4 Rfc8 (with compensation - IM Ivan Markovic - Small ECO, 2nd edition, 2003) 15.g4 Be6! with compensation and now IF 16.Nxe6? Rxb2!!

If you want to study 11.h4 b5!? I suggest the YB 62 because the researcher Luc Henris has analysed it in great detail and he also has given the name "Chinese Dragon".
  
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I dont see the compensation in the line 11.h4 after lets say 15.g4 Nc4 16.Bxc4 Rxc4 17.h5

Any ideas how to continue with black?
  
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03/04/04 at 23:42:47
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I would like to share my ideas in Chinese Dragon

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 0-0 8.Qd2 Nc6 9.Bc4 Bd7 10.0-0-0 Rb8!?

a) 11.h4 b5!? 12.Ndxb5 Ne5 13.Be2 Qa5 14.Nd4 Rfc8 with compensation;

b) 11.Kb1 b5!? 12.Ndxb5 Qc8 with compensation, with idea of Qb7, Rfc8;

c) 11.g4 b5!? 12.Ndxb5 Ne5 with compensation, with  idea of Bxb5;

d) 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Bxa7 Rb4 13.Bb3 Qa5 14.Be3 Rfb8 with compensation;

e) 11.Nd5 b5!? 12.Be2 (12.Nxf6+ Bxf6 13.Bd5 Na5=) 12...Ne5 13.Bh6 Nc4=;

f) 11.Be2 b5!? 12.h4 (12.Ncxb5 Nxd4 13.Nxd4 Qc7 with compensation, with idea of Qb7, Rfc8 ) 12...Nxd4 13.Bxd4 Qa5 14.h5 (14.Nd5 Qxd2+ 15.Rxd2 Nxd5 16.Bxg7 Kxg7 17.exd5 b4=) 14...b4 15.Bxf6 Bxf6 16.Nd5 Qxa2 17.Nxf6+ exf6 18.Qh6 Qa1+ 19.Kd2 Qxb2 20.hxg6 Qc3+= with perpetual check;

g) 11.Bb3 Na5 12.Bh6 (12.h4 b5 13.h5 Nc4 14.Bxc4 bxc4 15.Bh6 Qb6 16.b3 Bxh6 17.Qxh6 Qa5 18.Kb2 Rfc8 with counterplay; it's also possible 15.hxg6 fxg6 =) 12...Bxh6 (12...Nxb3+ 13.Nxb3!? with the idea Bxg7 and h4) 13.Qxh6 b5 14.Nd5!? (14.h4 e5! 15.Nde2 b4 16.Nd5 Nxb3+ 17.axb3 Nxd5 18.Rxd5 Rb6! with good position for black )14...e5 15.Nf5 (15.Nxf6+ Qxf6 16.Ne2 Nxb3+ 17.axb3 b4 18.h4 Rfc8 with counterplay) 15...Nxb3+ 16.axb3 Bxf5 17.exf5 Nxd5 18.Rxd5 Rb6!?=

                          Best Regards
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