Quote: My instinct is that the From is only a problem for the Bird insofar as many of its practitioners are looking for a relatively closed position out of the opening and the From opens everything up. That said, I don't understand why TN would scoff at the King's Gambit, but then happily give up two central pawns for a flank pawn in the From!
Moreover, I just don't think the From is very good for Black. 13 ... Bd7 is certainly an improvement on 13 ... Be6, but I don't see how White is in anymore trouble. Black was simply lost of 13 ... Be6; after 13 ... Bd7, there's still plenty of play in the position, but I still think White has all the chances.
Incidentally, there are all kinds of transpositional possibilities here, many of which take the game off in a variety of directions. Black can play 11 ... Bd7, which creates an altogether different kind of game...
I have already explained at length when I think it is appropriate to consider playing a Gambit continuation in another thread, I challenge you to find it.
In case you are unable to find it, here is the short version. 1.f4 voluntarily compromises white's own kings position on the e1-h4 diagonal, so much so in fact that after 1...e5!? White need only cooperate with 2.g4 allowing the now infamous two move checkmate. When the opponent self inflicts weaknesses we are well within or rights to try to exploit them as energetically as possible, if that entails a gambit, then so be it.
HGman may not think that 13...Bd7 below is a significant improvement on the T. Rendle vs V. Kotronias game, but it is. In fact HGman doesn't think very highly of the From's at all, to each his own I guess.
1.f4 e5 2.fe d6 3.ed Bxd6 4.nf3 g5 5.g3 g4 6.Nh4 Ne7 7.d4 Nc6 8.c3 Ng6 9.Nxg6 hg 10.Qd3 Bf5 11.e4 Qe7 12.Bg2 0-0-0 13.Be3 Bd7!
Here HGman agrees that 13...Bd7! is better than Kotronias' 13...Be6?!, but thinks that White still has all the chances. Unfortunately he does not supply us with White's 14th move, which will have to address the extremely awkward threat of Rxh2 followed Bxg3+.
In the absence of anything substantive from HGman I will supply a couple of illustrative games that underscore White's difficulties in this line:
[Event "NWAPA Rector Cup"]
[Site "St Petersburg RUS"]
[Date "2005.??.??"]
[White "Pogosian,Vl"]
[Black "Solovjov,S"]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2204"]
[BlackElo "2456"]
[ECO "A02"]
[Round "4"]
1. f4 e5 2. fxe5 d6 3. exd6 Bxd6 4. Nf3 g5 5. g3 g4 6. Nh4 Ne7 7. d4 Ng6 8. Nxg6 hxg6 9. Qd3 Nc6 10. c3 Bf5 11. e4 Qe7 12. Bg2 O-O-O 13. Be3 Bd7 14. Nd2 Rxh2 15. Rxh2 Bxg3+ 16. Bf2 Bxh2 17. O-O-O Bf4 18. Kb1 g3 19. Bxg3 Ne5 20. dxe5 Ba4 21. Qf3 Bxd2 22. b3 Bb5 23. c4 Bc6 24. Qf2 Bg5 25. Rd5 Kb8 26. Bf4 Bxd5 27. exd5 Bxf4 28. Qxf4 Re8 29. d6 cxd6 30. exd6 Qe1+ 31. Kb2 0-1
[Event "?"]
[Site "corr"]
[Date "1993.??.??"]
[White "Klausen,T "]
[Black "Wisloff,S "]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A02"]
[Round "?"]
1. f4 e5 2. fxe5 d6 3. exd6 Bxd6 4. Nf3 g5 5. g3 g4 6. Nh4 Ne7 7. d4 Ng6 8. Nxg6 hxg6 9. Qd3 Nc6 10. c3 Bf5 11. e4 Qe7 12. Bg2 O-O-O 13. Be3 Bd7 14. e5 Bxe5
15. dxe5 Nxe5 16. Qe2 Rhe8 17. Nd2 Nf3+ 18. Nxf3 Bb5 0-1 And this was a correspondence game for crying out loud.
I gather HGman likes 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.Nf3 dxe5 4.e4/Nc3, but despite Danielsen's occasional espousal of it, it amounts to nothing more than an inferior Kings Gambit Declined for white.
It is important to realise that a gambit opening for Black that equalises is somewhat of a victory for him. However a gambit opening for White that at best equalises is not considered such a big achievement, as we expect a bit more from the white pieces.
In light of the above, it would be nice if HGman and others would stop harping on comparisons between White and Black gambits such as the KG and From's for instance. Such comparisons are more or less absurd, it would be much more compelling to compare like with like.
Conclusion: The From's is most likely the reason that the Bird's Opening isn't more popular, especially at the lower levels and I don't think this is likely to change anytime soon.
Toppylov
Postscript: Will we get to see HGman's trademark back pedalling in his next post I wonder.