Quote:Hello guidedbyvoices,
I think you didn´t get the point of Inn2´s words. Maybe you even didn´t get the point of this thread.
We´re not searching for an answer to 1.e4 with least theory (of course the Caro has more than the Scandi) but for one with least work for an advanced clubplayer with a generally already developed understanding (~1700-2000?) who cannot spend much time for opening preparation (business, family) but don´t want to disclaim a certain solidity of his repertoire (otherwise 1...g5 would be a good choice).
If someone starts out with a "small" Caro-Kann rep or with French Rubinstein he´ll need (let´s say) 50 hours to study the necessary lines, most of them by model games. But then he has a solid defence for live and 1-2 hours a month will be enough to keep uptodate with some fresh ideas. White´s novelties? Mostly harmless!
Looking at the Scandi it´s not the same. Maybe at the start you can get away with less hours. But later you´ll have to pay, you must work more than 10 hours a month simply to repair your tactical lines. Even at clublevel white players will stop to play rather slow or to overextend, by time they´ll serve real problems! You´ll can deal with this with risky adhoc-solutions or by switching to annother subvariation. Look at history: 30 years ago Black played 3...Qa5/5...Bf5 without reasonable results. Then came 3...Qa5/5...Bg4 but after some years this was more or less defeated. 3...Qa5/5...Nc6 was crushed, too. Ok, back to Bf5-structures: first by Nf6/c6/Bf5/e6 move order, later by c6/Bf5/e6/(Nf6) as advocated by Wahls. But enthusiasm has gone, most protagonists (Wahls, Cu.Hansen, Rogers) stopped playing these lines. Now 3...Qd6 is the great hit. But even there several critical lines has evolved now and it´s the big time for 3...Qa5/5...Ne4 ? - Don´t be a fool! Black is working and doing and working. He has some good results in single games but nothing on the long run despite much work!
tracke
PS
I think that 1e4 e5 gives some possibilities for a small repertoire, too. For example the Petroff with 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d4 Be7 6.Bd3 Nf6. Black has to learn some lines against KG, Urusov, Danish, Vienna etc. but he can do this one time and then never again.
PPS
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no offence tracke but maybe it is you who has missed the point. the question that robert3 asked was ....
"What is the opening vs. e4, that you can play with nearly always the same setup and the same position, with least theory just from your feeling, right away?"
to me that seems to ask what opening can be played that involves learning a minimum of theory and that can be played just from a general knowledge of the opening plans rather than a memorisation of theory. the scandinavian fits the criteria for this much better than the caro-kann. the type of game black finds himself in when he plays the caro kann can vary widely depending on whites response, in the scandinavian this doesnt happen to the same extent.
you also contradict yourself in the above post by claiming the Caro is an ideal choice for a club player but the Scandinavian isnt because its not popular at super-GM level. what nonsense!
I agree with Willempie to an extent about the Rubinstein French and it is another good candidate for Robert3's criteria but it is somewhat predictable after a while. At least in the Scandinavian black can switch between 3..Qa5, 3..Qd8, 3..Qd6 and 2..Nf6 as takes his fancy.
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