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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #42 - 07/09/06 at 17:37:17
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I´m not sure about the quality of the coverage of qga with 3e4.
What about 3 e4 Nf6 4 e5 Nd5 5 Bc4 Nb6 6 Bb3 Bf5 ??

This is a common and quite often played transposition. 
After 7...e6 & 8...Nc6 the game will most likely return to the 
6Bb3 main line (6...Nc6 7 Ne2/Be3 Bf5 8 Nc3 e6 ...).
You´ll find nothing about this in Ward´s opening book, 
a book player following him is simply move-ordered!

Btw, with black I do not fear the "attack" 6...Nc6 7 Nf3 Bg4
8 Bxf7!? but I don´t want to give white an easy draw (8 Ng5).

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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #41 - 07/07/06 at 17:12:36
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kylemeister wrote on 07/07/06 at 16:32:34:
My impression of 6. Bg5 (I tried it briefly long ago, on the recommendation of the Keene book) is that it probably doesn't lead to a theoretical advantage (i.e. it is perhaps closer to = than to +=), but leads to positions where I would still probably rather be White, and is well-suited to minimising Black's winning chances.  It does follow the principle of exchanging pieces when playing against an isolated pawn (since the usual continuation is something like 6...Be7 7. Bxe7 Ngxe7 8. e3 0-0 9. dc Qa5).  For what it's worth, in the NIC database (out of almost 200 games), it scores 56.5% (a little better than White scores overall), with about 43% draws.

I have to agree with this assessment. I toyed with the Tarrasch after having a book, but got constantly creamed in rapid games in exactly this line.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #40 - 07/07/06 at 16:32:34
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My impression of 6. Bg5 (I tried it briefly long ago, on the recommendation of the Keene book) is that it probably doesn't lead to a theoretical advantage (i.e. it is perhaps closer to = than to +=), but leads to positions where I would still probably rather be White, and is well-suited to minimising Black's winning chances.  It does follow the principle of exchanging pieces when playing against an isolated pawn (since the usual continuation is something like 6...Be7 7. Bxe7 Ngxe7 8. e3 0-0 9. dc Qa5).  For what it's worth, in the NIC database (out of almost 200 games), it scores 56.5% (a little better than White scores overall), with about 43% draws.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #39 - 07/07/06 at 12:03:39
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/06/06 at 23:11:54:
Markovich wrote on 07/06/06 at 14:45:07:
alumbrado wrote on 07/03/06 at 10:33:53:
Ward gives the main line against the Tarrasch, as everybody seems to.

The last time I saw a repertoire book which suggested anything different was Ray Keene's Opening Repertoire for White way back in the 80s which recommended (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5) 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bg5.


Yes, and that is not such a bad line against the Tarrasch, in my view.

 
I agree completely, Markovich.  It's the main line and hasn't been refuted or even seriously tested for quite a while, so it deserves to be recommended without controversy.


I was talking about 6. Bg5, which isn't tbe main line, perhaps doesn't deserve to be recommended without controversy, but which nevertheless, in my view, is somewhat promising for White.  You perhaps thought I was talking about about 9. Bg5 in the universally popular the Rubinstein Variation.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #38 - 07/06/06 at 23:11:54
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Markovich wrote on 07/06/06 at 14:45:07:
alumbrado wrote on 07/03/06 at 10:33:53:
Ward gives the main line against the Tarrasch, as everybody seems to.

The last time I saw a repertoire book which suggested anything different was Ray Keene's Opening Repertoire for White way back in the 80s which recommended (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5) 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bg5.


Yes, and that is not such a bad line against the Tarrasch, in my view.

 
I agree completely, Markovich.  It's the main line and hasn't been refuted or even seriously tested for quite a while, so it deserves to be recommended without controversy.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #37 - 07/06/06 at 14:45:07
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alumbrado wrote on 07/03/06 at 10:33:53:
Ward gives the main line against the Tarrasch, as everybody seems to.

The last time I saw a repertoire book which suggested anything different was Ray Keene's Opening Repertoire for White way back in the 80s which recommended (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5) 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bg5.


Yes, and that is not such a bad line against the Tarrasch, in my view.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #36 - 07/03/06 at 10:33:53
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Ward gives the main line against the Tarrasch, as everybody seems to.

The last time I saw a repertoire book which suggested anything different was Ray Keene's Opening Repertoire for White way back in the 80s which recommended (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5) 4.cxd5 exd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bg5.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #35 - 07/03/06 at 05:51:05
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i cant recall the lines he recommended, but his basic take on the tarrasch was that black had a choice between accepting a solid but inferior position, or gambitting a pawn (which he considered dangerous).  he did stress that white needed to be prepared because the tarrasch could (of course) be dangerous.


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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #34 - 07/02/06 at 07:43:50
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You can see some sample pages, as well the index of variations at: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1857444116/ref=sib_dp_pt/002-1629597-7590464#rea...
I don't have the book, so I can't tell you more..
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #33 - 07/01/06 at 22:47:25
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What does he recommend vs the Tarrasch Defense?  What does he say is his bottom line for White in this line?  Promising or not?

  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #32 - 06/27/06 at 17:49:47
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i'd also agree that hansens review is on the mark.  the coverage was way thin.  i bought it and promptly gave the book away.  BUT this wasnt entirely because of the quality of the book....it wasnt wards best but there were interesting things there....the problem for me was that i almost always enter the queens gambit from a 1.Nf3 move order.  Palliser's book conforms to that very nicely (love that book), where Ward's repetoire does not.  just a lil something to keep in mind when you are considering whether or not to buy it.  the most interesting part might be Ward's continued championing of 3.e4 in the qga.  if you play that line, i think that material alone could justify your purchase.

in fact, i bet a ward book solely on the 3.e4 qga lines would be a gem!  (i propose the title _attacking the qga_); id buy it and i only face the lines as black.   Smiley
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #31 - 06/16/06 at 17:09:57
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I've always played 3.e4 against the QGA, and I think this is one of the better parts of Ward's book.  Also, I've always played the sneaky 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 against the Slav, and I think it's just as good as anything else.  Unfortunately, I think Ward could have given us more coverage in these lines, especially against 4...a6 and even 4...Bf5?!, which is supposed to be bad for Black but played very often at club level.

After 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.e3 a6 5.Nf3, he makes no mention of 5...Bf5 (only looking at 5...b5).  Maybe 5...Bf5 is dubious, but a quick database search didn't reveal a consensus as to how White should best continue.

His coverage of 4...g6 is a little thin as well, and he kind of glosses over 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3 dc 4.e4 e5, not even mentioning 5.Nf3 ed, which is too bad, because I was hoping to get his opinion on the piece sac 6.Bxc4 dc 7.Bxf7+.  I assume Ward wants White to play 6.Qxd4 (or maybe 6.Nxd4)??  Who knows though, because he doesn't mention this move order as far as I can see.

Overall I guess I agree with Carsten Hansen's review (http://www.chesscafe.com/hansen/hansen.htm); in fact, I think it's exactly on the money.  Which is too bad, because I've liked some of Ward's books and had really hoped for more from this one given the higher quality of the other books in this Play the... series.  However, if you, like me, play these lines as White anyway, you'll probably want the book.
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #30 - 06/16/06 at 04:07:12
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How does everyone feel about his choice against the queens gambit, e4? and the slav?
  
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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #29 - 05/28/06 at 16:25:21
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Ward recommends 3 de d4 4 a3 Nc6 5.e3 against the Albin. 
But not 3 e3 e5 4 de d4 5 a3 against the Chigorin.
So the Chigorin is weaker than the Albin ?!

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Re: Any info on Everyman's "Play the Queens Gambit
Reply #28 - 05/27/06 at 10:44:50
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See also http://www.bcmchess.co.uk/reviews/bcmrev0606.html
  
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