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Re: fianchetto or Staunton v Dutch 1...f5?
Reply #3 - 08/21/05 at 13:29:03
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I think the Staunton gambit, with 4.Bg5 is not that bad. But as a BDG player, I like 4.f3 where a line can also arrise from the BDG move order : 1.d4 d5 2.e4 dxe4 3.Nc3 f5!? 4.f3!? Nf6 5.fxe4 fxe4 and from Staunton gambit move order: 1.d4 f5 2.e4 fxe4 3.Cc3 Nf6 4.f3!? d5 5.dxe4 dxe4 reaching the same position, and the play can follow 6.Bg5 Bf5 7.Bc4 Nc6 8.d5!?(Nge2 is more common)Ne5 9.Bb3 with about equal chance, so I don't say that 4.f3 is better than 4.Bg5 but it is maybe as good.
  
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Re: fianchetto or Staunton v Dutch 1...f5?
Reply #2 - 08/21/05 at 12:41:18
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If there is a center-pawn gambit that works, it must be the Staunton.  And yet, it seems that even here Black is doing very well.  White is troubled, in many variations, by the weakess (!) of his d-pawn.

But I do agree with MnB that below 2000, you should do well with this gambit.
  

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Re: fianchetto or Staunton v Dutch 1...f5?
Reply #1 - 08/20/05 at 23:17:35
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After 4.Bg5 Black's best is Nc6. After g6 White also can consider 5.f3.
Last 15 years all books on the Dutch are written from the Black point of view, so the Staunton Gambit has not received a good press. Beneath ELO 2000 it should do very well though. But if you want to play the Staunton Gambit, do not forget to study the French and the Pirc either!

"the kingside fianchetto lines regard the kingside as Black's domain, to be defended by White, while White will get play on the queenside."
Good remark. For this reason I think 1...f5 or 1...e6 and 2...f5 is not the weakening move as so many strong players tell me.
  

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fianchetto or Staunton v Dutch 1...f5?
08/20/05 at 10:47:24
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Apologies if the many posts on the Dutch cover this. 

It seems the orthodoxy for White against 1...f5 is either a kingside fianchetto line or something sharper like the Staunton gambit. What's promising about the latter is that it seems some sort of attack is indicated when Black opens up the king on his first move, whereas the kingside fianchetto lines regard the kingside as Black's domain, to be defended by White, while White will get play on the queenside. These seem solid enough but disappointing if the idea of fireworks on the kingside must be foregone.

The fianchetto lines seem to be more defensive and more apt to lead to equality.

What's the current feeling on the Staunton gambit (i.e. 1. d4 f5  2. e4 dxe4  3. Nc3 Nf6  4. Bg5 and then if g6, h4 followed by h5 to set up an attack)?

If covered well in other threads, please refer rather than condemn.
  
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