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Poll Question: Which team will win the English Premiership this season?
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Arsenal    
  2 (6.5%)
Chelsea    
  9 (29.0%)
Liverpool    
  2 (6.5%)
Manchester United    
  3 (9.7%)
Bolton Wanderers    
  0 (0.0%)
Everton    
  0 (0.0%)
Wigan    
  0 (0.0%)
Another team    
  2 (6.5%)
What sport is that?    
  7 (22.6%)
Who cares, England lost to Denmark!    
  6 (19.4%)




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Reply #150 - 09/20/05 at 00:09:56
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To my amazement the Orange team has made it to the 2nd position on the FIFA list. Are the other national teams that bad?
  

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Reply #149 - 09/19/05 at 14:05:37
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I just looked up the finalists for the FIFPro world player of the year.  The 55 players are dominated by European teams, and specifically English and Spanish slightly more than the Italians.  The Spanish are heavily represented by just two sides (you only get to guess twice as to which they are) while the English have players from several teams represented.  Bayern Muenchen is also represented.  This seems to support my claim that the two best leagues in the World are the English and Spanish leagues.  And also, it seems to support my claim that Spain has two great teams then there's a drop-off in talent. 

BTW, Ronaldhino is the favorite to win the World Player of the Year again.
  
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Reply #148 - 09/19/05 at 11:55:29
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Way to go MNb!! Looks like you & me share some things in  common both in chess & football! What you wrote are my sentiments exactly Grin

Boy! i just gotta let out a huge sigh of relief here. Newcastle at last won their 1st game!! Owen scoring a goal. If they had lost i would surely be among the 1st calling for the head of Souness!! Great player he may have been....but great manager he isnt!! Tongue No doubt he turned round the fortunes of my long time favourite Rangers around up in Scotland.....but hey!! Its basically only Rangers & Celtic up there challenging for the scottich premiership!!
  

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Reply #147 - 09/14/05 at 22:50:42
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I hate Borussia Mönchengladbach (not bad, Smyslov-Fan, you only missed the h) because of the UEFA-cup finals of 1975.
And I despise the Italian national team AND all Italian club teams since the invention of catenaccio, despite of Gullit, Rijkaard and Van Basten playing for AC Milan.
The Italian national team, Juventus, AC Milan, Inter Milan, etc etc losing against whoever makes my day.
If the finals is going to be Italia-Germany I will not watch next year. That is always anti-football!
  

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Reply #146 - 09/14/05 at 17:24:09
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@Willempie, 

The only time I ever felt like rooting for Bayern Muenchen was when Man United beat them in the last two minutes of a game they'd dominated.  As for the other German teams, Hamburg was ok once (and that coincided with Kevin Keegan being on their side!), and I used to love Borrussia Moenchengladback (I'm sure I misspelled it), just for the sound of the name Grin and how well they played in the 1980s.

Italian teams still stink of dirty liras.  I know that's not fair, Cry but it's hard to watch AC Milan and not remember how they managed to get so many great players under one roof not so long ago.  (Kinda like Real Madrid today and Man United a few years ago!)
  
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Reply #145 - 09/14/05 at 15:47:19
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The Colorado Rapids (ever heard of them?) aren't even in the top half of the MLS over here.  The US national team looked like Landon Donovan and the mighty midgets against England's "B" team this Summer.  But Donovan is really dangerous.  So, the US has one great player, a couple of good goalies, and some beautiful pitches.  We also hosted the World Cup.


So you actually have a soccer league??  Shocked - I was under the impression it went bankrupt about 10 years ago...

Still, I must admit that the US can't be too bad, since you've already qualified for Germany next year by beating Mexico, which in turn looked impressive in the pre-worldchampionship tm this summer...
  
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Reply #144 - 09/14/05 at 14:15:22
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Well at least your're not rooting for Real (hahaha this week) or Chel$ki. Those two teams make you even want to root for German or Italian teams in Europe.
  

If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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Reply #143 - 09/14/05 at 13:48:50
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Taljechin, 

Touche!

The Colorado Rapids (ever heard of them?) aren't even in the top half of the MLS over here.  The US national team looked like Landon Donovan and the mighty midgets against England's "B" team this Summer.  But Donovan is really dangerous.  So, the US has one great player, a couple of good goalies, and some beautiful pitches.  We also hosted the World Cup.

That's why I root for England, the land of me dear mum!  (And for Liverpool, even though half me mum's family roots for the Toffees.)
  
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Reply #142 - 09/14/05 at 12:34:31
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Let's see:  Last year, England had two teams facing each other in the semis of the European Cup, and one of those teams didn't even finish in the qualifying spot in its own league!


Well, I see you're still living in the past. It's a new season with new heroes now...

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I would be lying if I said I hate to point this out, but....  Where's Malmo in all this?


Ahh, a cheap shot from a guy in a glass house! - Does the US even have a soccer team except for the national one? Grin
  
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Reply #141 - 09/14/05 at 11:30:18
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I suspect that keeping track of the different clashes in the Champion's Cup etc should also give a good indication of which national league is the best. I'd suppose the French league might be a strong outsider ..., but personally I'd expect the Italian League, and especially Juventus, to win. - Provided we have some soccer fan with enough extra time to keep track of all the different results between clubs from: England-Italy-Spain-France-and perhaps Germany  Undecided


Let's see:  Last year, England had two teams facing each other in the semis of the European Cup, and one of those teams didn't even finish in the qualifying spot in its own league!  Both Liverpool and Chelsea have won their first games in group play this season, so clearly, England still has one of the elite leagues.  I would be lying if I said I hate to point this out, but....  Where's Malmo in all this? Shocked

BTW, One shocking result does not a season make.  Unless of course that's the only win you get.


  
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Reply #140 - 09/14/05 at 09:03:13
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Smyslov_Fan, do you still believe in Real Madrid after yesterdays disaster against Lyon?

Maybe you were right, with that idea of the best league being the one with the most swedish national players! As Rennes and thus the french league seemed a clear winner, and Lyon's thrashing Madrid back to Reality also seems a good indicator, don't it? Wink

I suspect that keeping track of the different clashes in the Champion's Cup etc should also give a good indication of which national league is the best. I'd suppose the French league might be a strong outsider considering the paragraph above, but personally I'd expect the Italian League, and especially Juventus, to win. - Provided we have some soccer fan with enough extra time to keep track of all the different results between clubs from: England-Italy-Spain-France-and perhaps Germany  Undecided
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Reply #139 - 09/12/05 at 10:32:41
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Fair enough. As long as you understand the difference between a good midfielder & a playmaker. That's all that i'm trying to put forward. Smiley

Eg Bryan Robson & Graeme Souness were midfield giants but Jan Molby was a playmaker.

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Reply #138 - 09/12/05 at 01:18:00
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In my defense....

Yes, asking midfielders to make plays may be a tall demand, but that's what they're there for.  They should be able to pass the ball around and find/create the open space for the attack.  I don't necessarily expect them to score lots of goals (at the high school level, btw), but I do expect them to control the ball.  If my midfielders can control the middle third of the pitch, we win.  It works, too!
  
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Reply #137 - 09/11/05 at 15:52:54
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Playmakers have another feature: they make the team play better. A fine example is Ruud Gullit, who was out of shape in 1988, but still played a very important role.
  

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Reply #136 - 09/11/05 at 12:10:16
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I expect my midfielders to be playmakers


That's a very tall demand isnt it? I think you would be lucky if you can even get 1! Also depending on how talented your players are as well.

Playmakers are a very special breed of footballers afterall (even in a moderate team). Best passers in the team, best technique, great creativity (to create goals), great tactical awareness & game reading ability & also be able to score a fair no. goals themselves. Oh Yes! A lot of fitness also since they are probably the busiest in the whole team - to pick up the ball from almost anywhere & to distribute it out for posession play or to start a counter attack etc.
  

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