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Reply #23 - 11/04/05 at 16:40:37
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The easiest way to simplify calculation or what ever your thinking technique , or proper plan is to simply know the openings you play! You achive this by knowing the ideas behind your openings in other words what sort of pawn structures develope as a result of certain variations, tactical possiblities, positional concepts, middlegame plans for both sides, & typical endgames reached! This is done by not just studying opening theory (it helps) but it is done by studying IM & GM games involving your openings! PLay as many as possible!!!!!!!!! AFter doing this you will know what you need to study!!!!! You are wasting your time if you are mucking about with bishops of oppostie colors if that situation doesn't occur in your openings middlegame! Or your wasting time if you are studying minor piece endgames if they don't occur! CHess is filled with too many rules & techniques  as it is so why waste your time with the ones you won't encounter! Study your opening inside & out and figure all the tactical possiblities, positional plans, and common endgames!

By taking the above approach calculation, formulation of plans, etc. becomes almost second nature! I think in chess we suffer from too much information! I belive in GM Mecking's advice that chess players should devote the majority of their study time on their openings of choice! It saves time both over the board and off...belive me!!!!! As one switches openings he is exposed to new tactical themes, positional concepts, pawn structures, & what not....so you become familiar with them as a whole! This is how chess knowledge is aquired. 

You may say if you belive in this sort of thing why study all of the books mentioned in your original posts.....well its simple...I'M only focusing on concepts that occur in my openings....it shaves my study time and is just a darn practical approach to this crazy game!
  
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Re: An intense home brewed chess course...
Reply #22 - 11/04/05 at 11:55:43
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"One important thing is to avoid any boxed in approach to decision making process. That is, it is better not to go near Silman’s Imbalance, Dorfman’s Critical Moment, Bangiev’s square strategy or Berliner’s system. " -- castlerock

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I am a huge Silman fan.  I think he is one of the best of the current writers on chess.  (I especially enjoy his book reviews which are never wishy-washy, and I've got a couple of his books on my chess bookshelf.)

But -- I really agree with castlerock, and others on this one.  My OTB  chess goes a lot better when I realize I'm not under any moral obligation to follow any kind of plan.

Oh, sure, I choose the openings I play to arrive -- I hope -- at the kind of middle games I feel comfortable playing.  You could call that a plan.

But plan ?  I'm happy if I can just find a good or maybe even best move in each position.  Even more important than sharp tactics is avoiding mistakes.  It takes a lot of clock time trying to work how the "If I go here then he has to go there, so then I go here and if he goes there . . ."  for umpteen moves.  I find it works better for me to look around and see what the situation if right now, to see what's loose and what's loopy.  If nothing else suggests itself, just try and find a better square for one of the pieces, improve my position a little.   

Okay, I've made this sound overly simplistic (and maybe explains why I'm now and probably forever just a class player), but for me it works better than trying to force my thinking into one of those designed plans/systems.  And for some reason, my opponents never seem to be under any compulsion to follow along with my plans anyway.




 
  
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Reply #21 - 11/04/05 at 09:13:43
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Hey! Just gear your game to a Karpov/Petrosian positional style and you can reduce your overall calculation time over the board by at least a good margin! Everytime your opponent wants to complicate things=simplify. I'M finding as I study that the positional aspects of the game seem more appealing to me! The slow python like crush or winning ugly as some like to put it! It is a relief to know their is an avenue a player can take and have great success (Petrosian/ Karpov/Nimzo). As far as taatical play is concerned, unless you are a very strong calculator or you are gifted in this regard...forget about top level play! So, come on in and explore the wonders of positional play!
  
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Reply #20 - 11/04/05 at 02:32:48
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Oh.... I thought there were no pieces...  Smiley
Then I agree.



Sorry, I was not clear. What I meant was with pieces on the board.
  

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Reply #19 - 11/04/05 at 02:24:01
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So Joe Chess still can read Watson's book.


Of course, but he should start with something similar to Silman.... Wink
We all learn to crawl before we walk, dont we..?

To me Castlerocks 
@"That is, it is better not to go near Roll Eyes Silman's Imbalance...."
...is a very strong statement that I find hard to accept.
Maybe I will, someday.
  
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Re: An intense home brewed chess course...
Reply #18 - 11/04/05 at 02:10:45
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I like Seirawan's philosophy  about chess.  It encompasses the good of Silman, Watson, and Dovoretsky (or however you  spell it) and others.  GM Seirawan really knows what he is talking about too, having been one of the contenders for the World crown.

I you dont knowwhat I am talking about, pick up the book called "Play Winning Chess".   

He  talks about the aims you should have when playing the game.  He numbers each one of them ann shows you why and how they matter so much.
  

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Reply #17 - 11/04/05 at 01:51:46
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Prophylaxis. After f4 king would be exposed along a7-g1 diagonal.


Oh.... I thought there were no pieces...  Smiley
Then I agree.

Btw, this is kind of an exception: If the board were full of pieces, "h1" would be a nice home for the king. But, in an ending it would be silly to move to h1.... Wink
  
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Reply #16 - 11/03/05 at 20:50:34
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Btw, I really didnt understand why you wanted to shift your King to "h1"(!?) in your example...


Prophylaxis. After f4 king would be exposed along a7-g1 diagonal.
  

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Re: An intense home brewed chess course...
Reply #15 - 11/03/05 at 20:45:32
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On the Silman-Watson controversy:

Even for poor Joe Chess a common sense approach must prevail. Before one can deviate from a guideline, one must have understood it fully. A chess guideline is not a mathematical formula. On every level it is handy to keep that in mind. Someone who rigidly stucks to a certain guideline (like doubled pawns are always bad), limits his/her own creativity.
So Joe Chess still can read Watson's book.
  

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Reply #14 - 11/03/05 at 16:29:30
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I will agre that Silmans 'imbalance line of thought' is rather too simplistic and does cause one to get a sort of tunnelvision. I guess it was Jerry's way of trying to make calculation & positional concepts readily more accessable to the masses.


May I ask what do you miss with his "imbalance" way of thinking? 
What makes it simplistic?

just curious...  Smiley
  
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Reply #13 - 11/03/05 at 16:22:16
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Thank you, Castlerock. 
I think what you means is: It all depends...! Cheesy

You must have read Watson's "Secrets of Modern Chess Strategy"!
I have not, but did read Silmans ( Smiley) review of his book and found it very suitable here. Some excerpts:

"I can only guess that this chess anti-Christ  Wink doesn't quite understand what he's doing to the ordinary player. There's poor Joe Chess: He learns the basic rules, and takes to heart the golden bits of advice that we all grew up on: "Avoid bad bishops!" scream the classicists. Watson quotes grandmaster Suba: "Bad bishops protect good pawns." He then implores us to give those bad bishops the love they so desperately deserve."

"This gets to the core of what's happening in chess, and why writers such as myself are often looked upon as priests--as handlers of the holy chess truths. Now this renegade international master has exposed me (and others of my ilk!) as a false priest."

" Instead, he wants you to be aware of how chess should really be played. He wants you to think on your own and step beyond what you've been told. Backing his arguments up by numbers and percentages, the fact-numbed reader might think that he has no other option than to acquiesce to Watson's point of view. But is Watson's truth beneficial to non-professional players? I honestly don't think it is. Beginners, needing a foundation upon which to start, should embrace those rules and ignore John's intellectual ravings. Stronger players, however, will do themselves a favor by savoring everything Watson has said, and running it all through their mind for quite a long time."



Still I think it is necessary to really know the basics, like good/bad bishops and understand that a bad bishop can be good...++ ("good" & "bad" is really just definitions...)

Of course there are exceptions (as Silman also "mentions"  Wink), but that is what they are: exceptions. I don't see why guidelines are "bad", as long as you know that they are guidelines. But that may be hard to forget Tongue...(which is your point, as I see it) 


Btw, I really didnt understand why you wanted to shift your King to "h1"(!?) in your example...
  
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Reply #12 - 11/03/05 at 10:00:53
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I will agre that SIlmans 'imbalance line of thought' is rather too simplistic and does cause one to get a sort of tunnelvision. I guess it was Jerry's way of trying to make calculation & positional concepts readily more accessable to the masses. WHile this will get you far I will agree that you will hit the wall. 

This is why when a newcomer finishes an intense study in tactics, mating nets, attacks, sacrifices,  combinations, and some tactical GM games collections it is a must they study Kotovs 'Think LIke a Grandmaster.' There are mixed opinions about this book. SOme feel it is to advanced & it requires way too much work......well here it is folks TO IMPROVE YOUR CALCULATING ABILITY  YOU HAVE TO WORK VERY HARD & THERE IS NO WAY AROUND IT PERIOD!

Anyway finished with Combination: The heart of chess and I must be honest it has helped in regards to reinforcing the concepts of Vukovic's  Art of Attack & Kahns The Art of the Checkmate.  I feel my overall knowledge has improved in regards to tactical play. ANyway Dvortsy's School of CHess Excellence is up next. This will be a new read for me and what I have heard a good deal of work is neccesary to understand Dvortsky's concepts.......also continuing my plod through Reinfelds two 1001 books..........lata 8)
  
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Reply #11 - 11/02/05 at 23:50:04
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I’m not sure I can explain properly. Still I’ll try. Let me ask a few questions.

Is Irish c pawn structure good or Bad?

Is it correct to surrender Double B pretty early in the game, like you do in Nimzo or French?

Is it correct to move the Bishop three times in less than ten move like we do in Ruy Lopez or Armenian Variation of French?

Well, you can’t answer any one of the question purely based on the accepted opening principles. Chess is much more complex than that. We can’t even decide whether BDG is good or bad.  Wink

I’m not competent to base my arguments based on Silman’s methodology. So let me try it with Pawn Structure Chess. Let’s say black has queen side majority and White has central majority like we get in QGD. Lets assume visualize the standard pawn structure. Black has pawns on a,b,c,e,f,g and h files and white has pawns on a,b,d,e,f,g and h. Let’s say Kings are on g1 and g8. If there are no pieces on the board, black’s Queen side majority will be very difficult to handle. Hence black should strive for simplification, retain the queen side majority and get a break thro’ in the queen side with c5. White should strive to retain as many pieces on the board and start rolling it’s central pawns. That’s why white strives for e4 in QGD. Suppose, as black I try for exchanges and go behind white pieces. I might lose the game since my pieces might become uncoordinated. Now let me assume white doesn’t have d pawn and black doesn’t have e pawn. (six pawns each) My impulse would be to shift my king to h1 and start a pawn march with e and f pawn instead of d and e pawn since I still have central majority.

Now this helps at lower levels. After all, I have a plan and my opponent may not have any! This is absolutely insufficient for growth. Chess doesn’t have strict rules. There are only guidelines and general principles. These approaches tend to make them as rules instead of guidelines. That’s my primary objection. It’s a cult. You get attracted by a principle and it definitely helps you in the short run. No questions about that. Over a period we tend to believe it is the only truth around. This can only be bad in the long run. You can take it from a reformed addict of pawn structure cult.

Silman’s is a honorable cult. But a cult all the same.

My second objection to these approaches is philosophical. Chess exists for the sake of chess. It doesn’t exist for pawn structure or imbalances.
  

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Reply #10 - 11/02/05 at 10:18:45
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Because of the polarization of thought process they tend to impart. It's addictive and like all addictions it will prove to be counter productive in the long run.

I am not sure I understand you correctly.... Undecided

I think that Silman praises his own thinking process (of course) and claiming that many doesnt reach their potensial (they just reach a certain level) as they dont think correctly... His standard thinking process is there to insure that you dont miss anything, and use that info to  decide which move to make....
I dont see how that can be bad for your chess & your progression.

However, in order to improve at some points in one's "carreer" it is necessary to look at things from a different perspective.
  
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Reply #9 - 11/02/05 at 03:24:00
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Why are you so negative with this kind of "system" approach?


Because of the polarization of thought process they tend to impart. It’s addictive and like all addictions it will prove to be counter productive in the long run.

I have a similar addiction with pawn structure. I tend to generalize chess based on standard pawn structures. An incurable disease I caught after studying (literally) “Pawn Structure Chess” by Andrew Solits. Sooner or later you hit the wall and it is extremely difficult to break the barrier. Personal experience, basically.

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What about going over your own games!?
Doing both maybe?


Yes. Nothing teaches like one’s own games. Annotation of at least the losses and draws is a must. I should have added that too.

  

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