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anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 (Read 6314 times)

ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2533 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #7 - 12/04/05 at 15:48:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	Thanks, I'll take a look at the games.


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4909 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #6 - 12/04/05 at 15:38:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Hhmm, it sounds like I might need to just play the Catalan against the QGD move order and the Nimzo against 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6. Of course, if 3.Nc3 d5 I'm back in the main line QGD, which I like to avoid by playing the Catalan... I guess in chess, as in life, you can't have everything. Perhaps a better approach for repertoire would be to just learn the fianchetto lines for a second system against the Benoni. Unfortunately, I've always thought that the fianchetto lines in the Modern Benoni were considered pretty innocuous, and that Black can achieve equality/dynamic counterplay without much trouble. Are there any new ideas in the fianchetto system to get excited about for White these days? I don't know, but I would think that the leading White exponent is Predrag Nikolic. For instance, he beat David Navara (2600+ Czech GM) with it twice a few days ago (first round of the World Cup).


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ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2533 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #5 - 12/04/05 at 15:20:01	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hhmm, it sounds like I might need to just play the Catalan against the QGD move order and the Nimzo against 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6. Of course, if 3.Nc3 d5 I'm back in the main line QGD, which I like to avoid by playing the Catalan... I guess in chess, as in life, you can't have everything. Perhaps a better approach for repertoire would be to just learn the fianchetto lines for a second system against the Benoni. Unfortunately, I've always thought that the fianchetto lines in the Modern Benoni were considered pretty innocuous, and that Black can achieve equality/dynamic counterplay without much trouble. Are there any new ideas in the fianchetto system to get excited about for White these days?


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4909 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #4 - 12/04/05 at 00:30:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	Quote: Note, that 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 leads to the NID anyway. I don't know what the status of 6.Bd2 is. Well, the two quickie reference books I mentioned earlier have 6. Bd2 leading to equality or compensation. Similar story for 6. Nc3 (Nimzo). If you're interested in the Nimzo line for White, I would think you should look at a Kasparov-Karpov game from (I believe) 1986, and more recent games by Etienne Bacrot.


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MNb God Member Offline Rudolf Spielmann forever Posts: 10757 Location: Moengo Joined: 01/05/04 Gender:	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #3 - 12/03/05 at 20:42:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	Note, that 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 leads to the NID anyway. I don't know what the status of 6.Bd2 is.

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zxcvb Guest	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #2 - 12/03/05 at 06:04:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi, I think that this line has been allways considered as equal, so you should find something against d5, and also against Qa5 and Bb4. I play Qa5 against this setup and I consider it fine for black.


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kylemeister God Member Offline Posts: 4909 Location: USA Joined: 10/24/05	Re: anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.N Reply #1 - 12/01/05 at 13:31:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well, I notice that Nunn's Chess Openings (1999) gives 7. Nc2 as leading to an edge for White, while Small ECO (2003) gives it as leading to "unclear." The point of deviation is a White move, though, so SECO doesn't give a direct "answer" to the += claimed in Nunn. They both think that 7. Nf3 leads to unclear/compensation. I recall something by Sosonko in New in Chess Yearbook, though, in which I believe he claimed that 7. Nf3 holds more promise for White than generally believed.


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ErictheRed God Member Offline USCF National Master Posts: 2533 Location: USA Joined: 10/02/05	anti Nimzo/Benoni 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 12/01/05 at 12:48:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hi guys; I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I posted this topic right before the forums took a crap. As White, I play the Catalan against QGD setups and the Saemisch, Averbakh, or Four Pawns against the KID/Benoni. In none of these systems against the Benoni do I want to play an early Nf3 as White. I would like to avoid playing against the Nimzo-Indian as well, but I have a little problem with what to play after: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 It seems to me that if I don't want to play the fianchetto variation of the Benoni White can try 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3!?. What's the theoretical status of this move? Besides going in for a hedgehog or a Tarrasch defense, Black can try 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g3 c5 4.Nf3 cd 5.Nxd4 d5 6.Bg2 e5!, which scores quite well for Black. However, I've seen some games where White continues 7. Nc2 d4 and hits back with f2-f4. I was just wondering whether there is much theory in this line, whether it's established that White can hope for an advantage or whether Black is considered to be fine. Personally, I think Black looks fine and I'd prefer to avoid this as White. What do you think??


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