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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #39 - 08/02/06 at 14:48:09
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FightingDragon wrote on 07/31/06 at 19:30:31:
I also got the Fascinating Reti Gambit, but did not have much time to read it lately.
What I can say that it is again very comprehensive, covering almost everything.
But for me as a practical player, some clear recommendations could be helpful.
So perhaps TalJechin could tell us which variations he prefers?
In the main line I'd rather play 1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 de4: 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Qe2 than 5.g4.
What I didn't get from the book is which variation to prefer against 1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 c5, which might be least fun for white (fortunately must other variations are quite nice  Smiley).
TalJechin, would you suggest 4.Bb5 or 4.ed5: ed5: 5.Bb5 ?   
The coverage of the french part is in my view very good, but I think that the "Sicilian" variations after 1.e4 e6 2.b3 c5 are covered a bit superficially. At least that was my impression comparing with 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.b3 which I have played for some years.
Perhaps you could also recommend some variations there for white?

Nevertheless, it is a good book which will definitely give me some fun against the french!  Wink



Well, I don't have everything in my mind, but a few things pop up...  Smiley

1) I think Réti's original 5.Qe2 idea is the most dynamic and better choice. 
(Though Papa's 5.g4 may be easier to play for white - unless black plays 5...Bd7 or 5...h6 and 6...Bd7 in which case white may need to know his lines quite well. 5.g4 probably works best against defenders who want clearcut plans and no early confrontation.)

2) Against 3...c5 I really liked the game Aronian-van Wely (p 164-165 - 4.ed5 ed5 5.Bb5+ Bd7 6.Qe2+ Qe7 7.Nc3). 4.ed5 ed5 5.d4/5.Nf3/5.Bb5 and 4.Bb5+ can transpose into each other in a number of ways. Personally I'd go for 4.ed5 & 5.Bb5+ so I guess people will have to decide for themselves what they feel most comfortable with.

Those who don't want to 'risk' an early queenswap could consider the rare 4.Qe2 - though that will probably not be everybody's cup of tea I suppose...

3) As I mention in the book, the Sicilian section is more directed at showing white's different options / ideas. It would become too big and confusing to try to cover everything as black has so many different move orders and combinations of typical moves a6, b6, Nc6, d6, Nf6 etc. Besides, 2.b3 c5 3.Nf3 is something of a 'last round drawing line' for some GMs - while I wanted to concentrate on 3.Bb2 as it's more in the spirit of the RG having the f-pawn unblocked.

One game I enjoyed in the sicilian part was Georgiev-Jovicevic, p 212-213, which did feel more like a RG than a SI! Cheesy

Georgiev,K (2470) - Jovicevic,B (2300) [B20]
JUG-chT Nis, 1994

1.e4 c5 2.b3 e6 3.Bb2 d6 4.Nf3 Nf6 5.e5 dxe5 6.Nxe5 Be7 7.f4 Nbd7 8.Nc3 a6 9.Qf3 Qc7 10.0-0-0! 0-0 11.Bd3 Nxe5 12.fxe5 Nd7 13.Rde1 c4 14.bxc4 Nc5 15.Ne4 Nxd3+ 16.Qxd3 Rd8 17.Qf3 Qxc4 18.Rhf1 Rf8 19.Nf6+ Kh8 20.Re4 Qb5 21.a4 Qc6 22.Rh4 h6 23.Qf4 1-0

  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #38 - 07/31/06 at 19:30:31
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I also got the Fascinating Reti Gambit, but did not have much time to read it lately.
What I can say that it is again very comprehensive, covering almost everything.
But for me as a practical player, some clear recommendations could be helpful.
So perhaps TalJechin could tell us which variations he prefers?
In the main line I'd rather play 1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 de4: 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Qe2 than 5.g4.
What I didn't get from the book is which variation to prefer against 1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 c5, which might be least fun for white (fortunately must other variations are quite nice  Smiley).
TalJechin, would you suggest 4.Bb5 or 4.ed5: ed5: 5.Bb5 ?   
The coverage of the french part is in my view very good, but I think that the "Sicilian" variations after 1.e4 e6 2.b3 c5 are covered a bit superficially. At least that was my impression comparing with 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.b3 which I have played for some years.
Perhaps you could also recommend some variations there for white?

Nevertheless, it is a good book which will definitely give me some fun against the french!  Wink
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #37 - 07/24/06 at 21:10:48
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The 2nd review appeared a few days ago, but I've been too busy to post for a while.

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/DrMJDonnelly/bookrevi.htm
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #36 - 07/14/06 at 21:03:04
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Well, instead of 7.Qc4? white has two typical ideas that may look awkward at first but they do have some bite.

Here's a couple of examples:

Cherniaev,A (2430) - Nikolenko,O (2485) [C00]
Moscow Alekhine op Moscow (4), 1996

1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 dxe4 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Qe2 Nc6 6.Nxe4 Nd4 7.Qd3 c5 8.Nf3 Nxf3+ 9.Qxf3 Nxe4 10.Qxe4 Qd5 11.Qe3 Bd7 12.0-0-0 Bc6 13.f3 0-0-0 14.Bc4 Qd7 15.d4 cxd4 16.Bxd4 Ba3+ 17.Kb1 a6 18.Be2 Qe7 19.Bxg7 Rxd1+ 20.Rxd1 Rd8 21.Bd3 Rd5 22.Be5 Qc5 23.Qxc5 Bxc5 24.Bf4 Bd6 25.Bxd6 Rxd6 26.c4 Rd8 27.Kc2 Rg8 28.Rd2 a5 29.Kc3 h5 30.h4 Kc7 31.a3 b6 32.Bb1 e5 33.Bf5 Rh8 34.b4 axb4+ 35.axb4 Ra8 36.b5 Be8 37.Kb4 Ra1 38.c5 Rh1 39.cxb6+ Kxb6 40.Rd6+ Kc7 41.Ra6 Rxh4+ 42.Kc5 Rd4 43.b6+ Kb8 44.Be4 Ra4 45.Rxa4 Bxa4 46.Kd6 f5 47.Bxf5 Kb7 48.Kc5 h4 1-0


Garbarino,R (2325) - Dienavorian,M (2285) [C00]
Casilda Casilda (5), 1984

1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 dxe4 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Qe2 Nc6 6.0-0-0 Nd4 7.Qe1 Be7 8.d3 c5 9.dxe4 Qc7 10.e5 Nd7 11.f4 b6 12.Nge2 Nxe2+ 13.Bxe2 a6 14.Ne4 Bb7 15.Nd6+ Bxd6 16.exd6 Qd8 17.Qg3 Rg8 18.Bd3 g6 19.f5 1-0

  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #35 - 07/14/06 at 15:23:26
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Say TJ,

so far there hasnt been any discussion, where black becomes the pawn grabber yet is there?

Anyway, I was experimenting this opening on EXTREME (Fritz 4.01). This program is an incessant pawn grabber & will hold on to the pawn or whatever material till kingdom come. It will also force exchanges whenever he sniffs something nasty in my camp to neutralise whatever threats he cant defend against or which will cause him to give back material. (usually it blunders in the ending, so there's my chance to win or save the game)

1.e4 e6 2.b3 d5 3.Bb2 pxp 4.Nc3 Nf6 5.Qe2 Bb4 6.0-0-0 Nc6 7.Qc4 Qd4. Here white is compelled to exchange queens. The black pawn on e4 is also very cramping for me. Is this a normal sequence of moves? The Nf6 already prevents the g4 thrust. So far Ive won 1 & drawn 1 against EXTREME set at 1860 ELO.

Your website says that the gambit pawn can be recovered by force iirc or that the initiative can be such that the pawn deficiency is not noticed. So how does this apply to opponents like EXTREME or some human with similar playing characteristics? Seems there is a specific exception here right?
  

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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #34 - 07/14/06 at 09:27:42
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/12/06 at 02:51:43:
Paddy, 


Thanks for the review!
Is this review being published elsewhere?


I think it will show up at
http://www.btinternet.com/~cccs.chess/review1.htm
in a few days or when the webmaster returns from summer vacation.  Smiley
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #33 - 07/12/06 at 02:51:43
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Paddy, 


Thanks for the review!
Is this review being published elsewhere?
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #32 - 07/10/06 at 18:01:08
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The Fascinating Réti Gambit – 1.e4 e6 2.b3!? A Fun Anti-French!, 
by Thomas Johansson, 228 pages, Self-published, 2006.
$24.95 softback, $34.95 hardback. 
http://hem.passagen.se/tjmisha/reti_gambit.html

Thomas Johansson is a strong (around 2200) amateur player from Sweden. This is his third publication, following two well-received books on the King’s Gambit (The King's Gambit for the Creative Aggressor, a repertoire book based on the Knight’s Gambit, and The Fascinating King’s Gambit based on the Bishop’s Gambit). 

OK, so what is the Réti Gambit? Most players will have heard of the Réti Opening 1 Nf3, but few will be aware that in the 1920s the  Czech grandmaster Richard Réti (actually born in Pezinok, then in Hungary, in 1889) was one of the most inventive grandmasters around. His creativity was seen in the field of endgame studies as well as opening and middlegame plans. He was also a good writer (Modern Ideas in Chess, Masters of the Chessboard). 

In Gothenburg (aka Göteborg), Sweden, in 1920, the first big chess event in Europe following World War I took place. In the third round, two experts in the French defence from different generations sat down to play each other. Réti had the White pieces against his older colleague, the renowned defensive expert Géza Maróczy (born 1870) from Hungary. It is not hard to imagine Réti racking his brains to decide what line he should choose... The game began 1 e4 e6 2 b3!?... I guess we shall never know whether this was over-the-board inspiration, a creative suggestion from Réti’s friend Breyer, or perhaps a whimsical suggestion from the ever-playful Tartakower, who later employed this line several times himself (both Breyer and Tartakower were also playing at Gothenburg). The game produced an unusual middlegame struggle and was drawn only after various vicissitudes. By the way, whilst it is possible to find games with 2.b3 played before Réti’s time, it seems that he was the first to offer the gambit  2....d5 3.Bb2.

If facing the French was a problem for Réti in 1920, it is an even bigger problem now. The expansion in French theory has been phenomenal. White’s three main continuations all have their snags: 3 Nc3 is generally regarded as theoretically strongest, but the ramifications are huge and complex; Sveshnikov considers that 3.e5 is the second best move and also sufficient for a white advantage, but proving it in practice against an experienced French Defence player is quite another matter; Karpov’s old favourite 3.Nd2 is still fully playable but it breaks the rules of development, so it is hardly surprising that Black gets to choose from among a wide choice of playable continuations, according to the type of position he prefers, or the degree of risk he is prepared to run.

2.b3!? might seem a rather extreme reaction to the problem of what to play against the French, but it has certain clear advantages: a) it is playable; b) the theory is not yet well-developed; c) in most of its variations White is able to avoid the normal patterns of the French and compel Black to fight in an unclear, unfamiliar position; d) it is provocative, therefore Black may over-react in an attempt to “punish” White.

Johansson’s book makes a good primer for anyone wishing to adopt this line. He appears to have made a pretty thorough investigation of the available material, has done his own analysis and tried it out in many games on the Internet. The material is laid out quite clearly, and there are many helpful verbal comments as well as analytical notes of varying depth. He even deals with possible transpositions to the more popular “Anti-Sicilian” 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 b3. There is a useful index of variations but unfortunately no index of players. Production values are very good for a book of this type.

Verdict: This won’t be for everyone, but for many amateur players this book will provide just what they need to create an unusual pattern of struggle in the often stereotyped French Defence. ****

  
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Reply #31 - 07/04/06 at 12:13:25
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The hard cover proof just arrived, and it does look quite good to me. However, the paper inside isn't glossy as some may have hoped, and some may think it's a bit thin as there is a slight see thru factor. 

So, those who just want to read it could just as well get the paperback (though there the cover might be a bit thin), and those who want something pretty in the bookshelf after having read it should go for the hard cover.

Paperback: http://www.lulu.com/content/299759

Hardcover: http://www.lulu.com/content/333614


And as always, those who've gotten themselves a copy - feel free to share your opinion here!  Cheesy
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #30 - 07/04/06 at 07:34:34
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Smyslov_Fan wrote on 07/04/06 at 03:16:34:
My apologies, Taljechin!   

I was forgetting my place.  Oh here I am, in the Fascinating Reti Gambit thread.

Pls let us know when and where your book is reviewed!



No problemo, S_F! We all get carried away sometimes - which is why most threads look like they do! Wink

I hope the reviews will be coming in a week or two, at CCC and Mike Donnelly's site, and finally also in Kaissiber...
  
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My apologies, Taljechin!   

I was forgetting my place.  Oh here I am, in the Fascinating Reti Gambit thread.

Pls let us know when and where your book is reviewed!
  
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Reply #28 - 07/03/06 at 08:24:29
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Hmm, one line briefly mentioning sports and suddenly we're on the Tour!  Roll Eyes


Added later today:

today I heard from one of the reviewers that the book arrived today sent 'international standard', and an hour later the handful copies I ordered myself also arrived but sent 'economic'. So within Europe the cheapest postal transport may well be at least as fast as the alternatives.

Btw, the hardcover proof is still delayed due to 'overworked printer' an estimated 10 business days has turned into 15 (while the paperbacks shipped after 2 days while estimated 3-5 days!) - and if this is normal for hardcovers it might be more trouble than it's worth to have a hc edition?!  Undecided
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #27 - 07/02/06 at 21:15:43
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TalJechin wrote on 07/02/06 at 09:17:05:
We'll extract our vengeance in all other sports, as usual!  Smiley


Just a reminder, Taljechin, there's more than one summer sport.  Embarrassed

The Americans have been knocked out of a big soccer tournament and now a big tennis tournament.  There's still hope that an American (who's not under a doping scandal cloud) will do well in that cycling event that's supposed to go on in France but is in fact going all over western Europe.  My other favorite in the Tour is Vinokurov now that Basso's been dropped. 



Is there enough interest for a separate thread on the Tour?
  
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Reply #26 - 07/02/06 at 09:17:05
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Lou_Cyber wrote on 07/01/06 at 22:58:10:
Is the binding comparable to TFKG? Then it might be worth to wait the few weeks for a hardcover version.

I didn´t order at once because the shipment cost to germany was apallingly high. Will there be reasonable ways to order in europe, eg with amazon or with schachversand.de as with TFKG?


Personally, I think the binding is slightly better than in the previous - but on the other hand I didn't see much wrong with the binding on the FKG either...

If I understand the printers right, orders in Europe will be printed and shipped from Spain and the others from North Carolina, US. Btw, I think there's three options of shipment in the drop down list, economy, standard and express. 

Anyway, I wasn't sure there is a market for the FRG so I ignored to pay extra for the option of distributing via amazon etc. I guess some of the bigger chess dealers might put some in stock eventually, though they may need to compensate themselves with a higher price to make up for the lack of discounts. At the moment they probably don't know it's out...  Undecided


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By the way, good luck with the sales - you swedes sure took enough beating at the world cup finals  Grin


We'll extract our vengeance in all other sports, as usual!  Smiley
  
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Re: The Fascinating Réti Gambit
Reply #25 - 07/01/06 at 22:58:10
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Is the binding comparable to TFKG? Then it might be worth to wait the few weeks for a hardcover version.

I didn´t order at once because the shipment cost to germany was apallingly high. Will there be reasonable ways to order in europe, eg with amazon or with schachversand.de as with TFKG?

By the way, good luck with the sales - you swedes sure took enough beating at the world cup finals  Grin
  

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