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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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Kramnik-Topalov match (Read 88824 times)

Klick God Member Offline Posts: 528 Joined: 01/31/03	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1024 - 10/12/06 at 13:45:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Interesting. Fritz and Crafty are now giving different evaluations. Crafty small white advantage whereas Fritz is giving black advantage.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1023 - 10/12/06 at 13:44:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well, look at that. You post enough garbage and once in a while you're right.


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1022 - 10/12/06 at 13:44:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Nice call. 30...Qf7 31.Rc8 played.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1021 - 10/12/06 at 13:43:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	OK, now this one I don't get. Is he planning 31...Qh5 32 Kf1, so that f5 hangs after a capture on h2? Kramnik's certainly moving awfully fast, which you'd think was a good sign. Ender, our hero! Please tell us what Rybka's saying after 31...Qh5, evaluation, etc.


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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1020 - 10/12/06 at 13:43:10	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:41:13: Now I have to agree with Keano that Black looks better. I didn't understand Kramnik's decision to play 29.Qf8 though. Rybka says : After Qh5 white play Kf1 and position is about equal Don't forget pawn on f5 is attacked, so I'm not so optimistic on black chances here.

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1019 - 10/12/06 at 13:41:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	Now I have to agree with Keano that Black looks better. I didn't understand Kramnik's decision to play 29.Qf8 though.

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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1018 - 10/12/06 at 13:40:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:37:30: Hmm. Maybe Black could do something with the queen on the queenside in the other line. I wonder if Kramnik's idea is to meet ...Qf7 now with the prophylactic Rc2? Or ...Qf7 31.Qc8, according to Rybka

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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1017 - 10/12/06 at 13:40:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	I dont like either side

	If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1016 - 10/12/06 at 13:37:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hmm. Maybe Black could do something with the queen on the queenside in the other line. I wonder if Kramnik's idea is to meet ...Qf7 now with the prophylactic Rc2? Then after 30...Qh5 31 QXa7 Qxh2+ 32 Kf1 there's no ...Nd2+, so maybe Black's just shot his bolt on the kingside?


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MarinFan Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 447 Location: Leeds Joined: 04/04/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1015 - 10/12/06 at 13:37:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	Must admit I was worried about a queen appearing on H5 too. Very rare for me to agree with Keano ...


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1014 - 10/12/06 at 13:37:00	Post Tools	Print Post
	29.Qf8 Rxb8 30.Qxb8 played.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1013 - 10/12/06 at 13:35:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	28.Rf8 Rxb8 29.Qxb8 what am I missing after ...Qf7 How does white defend


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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1012 - 10/12/06 at 13:34:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	I don't think White's going to play Rb1 now, allowing the deflection of the b8 rook to the first rank. I'm expecting Rxb7 and some queen thrust into Black's vitals. But don't ask me, ask Klick - he's the man with Crafty on the job.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1011 - 10/12/06 at 13:32:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:28:43: ...Rb7; excellent sign for White, surely? Once Black's trading pieces he'll surely find this rook on h6 quite hard to justify, won't he? Hopeful thinking John? I still like the plan of ...Qf7 - h5, what is happening there (assuming White plays Rb1 now)


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Klick God Member Offline Posts: 528 Joined: 01/31/03	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1010 - 10/12/06 at 13:30:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	After Black's 28th Crafty is giving 0.23

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