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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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Kramnik-Topalov match (Read 88935 times)

Klick God Member Offline Posts: 528 Joined: 01/31/03	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1039 - 10/12/06 at 14:00:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Rybka 2.1o mp 32-bit: 1. = (0.00): 35.Bxc4 dxc4 36.Qa6 Qxh2 37.Qxc4 Qh1+ 38.Kd2 Qf3 39.Qe2 Qd5 40.Qa6 Qf3 41.Qf1 Rh6

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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1038 - 10/12/06 at 13:59:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:58:22: I liked 34.Rxc4 dxc4 35.Bxc6, but haven't looked at this position enough to be sure. After exchange sac black is almost wining. But Bxc4 is still about equall.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1037 - 10/12/06 at 13:59:49	Post Tools	Print Post
	So Bxc4 dxc4; Rxc4 Qxh2; Rxc6 isn't called for, I guess?! Are we lining up for a repetition in that line? ...Qf3+/Qh1+ etc?


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1036 - 10/12/06 at 13:58:26	Post Tools	Print Post
	Blimey isnt Rf6 losing a pawn for nothing?

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1035 - 10/12/06 at 13:58:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	I liked 34.Rxc4 dxc4 35.Bxc6, but haven't looked at this position enough to be sure.

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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1034 - 10/12/06 at 13:54:12	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:49:45: ...Nc4! Gosh, keeping it complex then. But White's surely in time with Rb1, is he not - Black has to cover f5 before he can launch into h2. In time at least to save himself, that is. Indeed, Willempie, the vision! YEs who needs Susan Polgar for insightfull commentary. Not sure what to think now after Bf1

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1033 - 10/12/06 at 13:51:57	Post Tools	Print Post
	Is exchange sac on c4 a possibility? Guess not. 34.Bf1 played.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1032 - 10/12/06 at 13:49:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	...Nc4! Gosh, keeping it complex then. But White's surely in time with Rb1, is he not - Black has to cover f5 before he can launch into h2. In time at least to save himself, that is. Indeed, Willempie, the vision!


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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1031 - 10/12/06 at 13:48:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:47:34: ..Nd2+; what's that about, I wonder. The speed they're playing you'd think they've seen a forced line the position's burning out to. Any 0.00s appearing on Rybka, Ender? Nd2+ Ke1 and now Rybka gives Nc4 Bf1. Still about equal (0,03). All of white counterplay is created on f5 weak pawn

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1030 - 10/12/06 at 13:48:36	Post Tools	Print Post
	but after ..Nd2+ the Knight is coming to c4. Edit ... ok im slow


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1029 - 10/12/06 at 13:48:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	http://www.france-echecs.com/diagramme/imgboard.phpfen=2Q5/p5pk/2p4r/3p1p1q/2nP2... After 33...Nc4

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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1028 - 10/12/06 at 13:48:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	I am amazing. The knight does go to c4 in the end

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1027 - 10/12/06 at 13:47:34	Post Tools	Print Post
	..Nd2+; what's that about, I wonder. The speed they're playing you'd think they've seen a forced line the position's burning out to. Any 0.00s appearing on Rybka, Ender?


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1026 - 10/12/06 at 13:47:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	How about Nd2+ followed by Nf3?

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Ender Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 408 Joined: 05/22/06	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1025 - 10/12/06 at 13:46:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:43:40: OK, now this one I don't get. Is he planning 31...Qh5 32 Kf1, so that f5 hangs after a capture on h2? Kramnik's certainly moving awfully fast, which you'd think was a good sign. Ender, our hero! Please tell us what Rybka's saying after 31...Qh5, evaluation, etc. My english is not so good, so be patient After Nd2+ Rybka play Kf1 and slightly prefers white 0,03

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