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Topalov wins    
  23 (29.1%)
Kramnik wins    
  37 (46.8%)
Draw    
  2 (2.5%)
Match gets cancelled    
  17 (21.5%)
other?...    
  0 (0.0%)




Total votes: 79
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #1129 - 10/13/06 at 11:36:36
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Topa's idea is that the knight is trapped and ...Nb6 Bc5 roots it to the spot for good, I suppose. But the a-pawn?
  
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Reply #1128 - 10/13/06 at 11:36:00
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IMJohnCox wrote on 10/13/06 at 11:34:32:
...Ra8! gosh, he really wants ...Nb6. Very critical way to play it. I wonder if Nc4 as a pawn sacrifice is going to become possible. Computers sometimes go very wrong in those oppo-bishop positions.


Absolutely right.  Though Hiarcs thinks Black is now marginally better even after Nxa4...
  

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Reply #1127 - 10/13/06 at 11:34:32
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...Ra8! gosh, he really wants ...Nb6. Very critical way to play it. I wonder if Nc4 as a pawn sacrifice is going to become possible. Computers sometimes go very wrong in those oppo-bishop positions.
  
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Reply #1126 - 10/13/06 at 11:34:01
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well ...Qa7, ...Ra8 he has gone completely passive - can White get the c-file now
  
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Reply #1125 - 10/13/06 at 11:33:06
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25...Rc2 works better for Hiarcs (though it didn't want to recommend it...
  

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Reply #1124 - 10/13/06 at 11:33:04
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Qa7, yes of course after Qd8/Nb6 a5 hung. And I suppose White has Qd2 anyway to force b6. It's going to be hard to get that knight into active play; bit of an occupational hazard of this line, I guess.
  
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Reply #1123 - 10/13/06 at 11:32:32
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Poor knight..
  

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Reply #1122 - 10/13/06 at 11:31:59
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wait a minute, now I like White  Wink
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #1121 - 10/13/06 at 11:31:19
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Strange: I like Black here--solid and coordinated; I rather fancy Topalov will also push too hard.  Hiarcs, though, likes White by almost a pawn!  25.b4 Rdc8 26.g4 f5 27.b5
  

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Reply #1120 - 10/13/06 at 11:30:35
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b4-b5! Gosh - playing against the d7 knight I suppose; now it can't come to c6. But maybe now ...a5 and then Rdc8/Qd8 and Nb6? I suppose not having a rook on the third rank may erode Black's kingside defences too.

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Reply #1119 - 10/13/06 at 11:29:31
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Symmetrical pawn structure with a single full open file. It’s control should mean some thing.
  

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Reply #1118 - 10/13/06 at 11:28:46
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What's Black going to do, I wonder - I guess ...Rdc8, Rc2, Nb8-c6 in a dream world. And White? Is he going to go for it on the kingside? g4/f5?

I can't help feeling the guy on e4 may turn out to have more to offer than the one on f1.
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #1117 - 10/13/06 at 11:28:21
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This is like watching poker. I think Black is better but I'm not sure how much that is going to matter - first to blunder....
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #1116 - 10/13/06 at 11:26:10
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Next best thing - according to chesninja Gazza thinks Topalov is already lost ('horrrible, amazing, does he not understand chess at all?').

But of course there is the ever-present Gazza subtext, 'I'm SOOOO much better than these guys.'
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #1115 - 10/13/06 at 11:25:34
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Computer says about even.
  

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