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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #544 - 10/05/06 at 14:14:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	f3 - steady trading; makes sense, the fewer pawns the better the rooks, whether trying to draw or win.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #543 - 10/05/06 at 14:14:11	Post Tools	Print Post
	37.f3, now ...g3 is too slow presumably after f4 and Kf3


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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #542 - 10/05/06 at 14:13:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, probably very hopeful! Is Topalov teeing up a repetition? ....Nd6; Rbc7 Ne8 and so on? Or would White go on then with Rc8 - I bet he wouldn't, whatever Avrukh and Karjakin say. Even if they're right.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #541 - 10/05/06 at 14:12:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	I like that plan of co-ordinating the Knights - they were getting in each others way earlier


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #540 - 10/05/06 at 14:11:22	Post Tools	Print Post
	I hate endgames with knights. You always need to check everything threefold and even then I will overlook some tactics.

	If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #539 - 10/05/06 at 14:11:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	Ah, Ostap, good to see we're not the only ones with no idea! Maybe they're both just playing?! I'm sure Topalov would not accept a draw in the match situation, whoever is better. These tough endgame struggles where both are just playing take me back to Karpov-Korchnoi 1974, which was largely decided in a series of grim struggles like this.


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #538 - 10/05/06 at 14:10:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	IMJohnCox wrote on 10/05/06 at 14:08:40: Any chance of another Topalov self-destruct/overpress, I wonder? Particularly easy to do with this material balance. A hopeful comment?

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #537 - 10/05/06 at 14:10:16	Post Tools	Print Post
	I like that - ...Nd6 coming


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #536 - 10/05/06 at 14:08:58	Post Tools	Print Post
	36...g3 looked interesting, but 36...Ne8 played.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #535 - 10/05/06 at 14:08:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	No - backwards with ...Ne8


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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #534 - 10/05/06 at 14:08:40	Post Tools	Print Post
	Settling down for a long old struggle. With Black's two pawn weaknesses though it looks a Herculean task to me to make any progress. Any chance of another Topalov self-destruct/overpress, I wonder? Particularly easy to do with this material balance.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #533 - 10/05/06 at 14:06:30	Post Tools	Print Post
	is ...g3 possible now?


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #532 - 10/05/06 at 14:05:54	Post Tools	Print Post
	from http://susanpolgar.blogspot.com/ Quote: The big debate on all servers is which side is better. GM Boris Avrukh said: "Zagrebelnyi is commenting on 64.ru writes: I am sure he is Topalov is playing for a win here , I think he is wrong, I would prefer White here." Karjakin likes White. Radjabov likes Black. John Fedorowicz likes White, I like Black...and the debate continues...

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #531 - 10/05/06 at 14:02:53	Post Tools	Print Post
	I still like this for Black - he has to switch to the kingside with ...Rh8 at some point


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Willempie God Member Offline I love ChessPublishing .com! Posts: 4312 Location: Holland Joined: 01/07/05	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #530 - 10/05/06 at 14:00:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yeah but now he cant move the rooks or the knight, with the rook exchange he could have used a knight.

	If nothing else works, a total pig-headed unwillingness to look facts in the face will see us through.
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