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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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Kramnik-Topalov match (Read 89024 times)

TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #694 - 10/07/06 at 12:55:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Markovich wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:50:50: castlerock wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:47:48: Yes, Unfortunately. Game is gone for Kramnik. He's thoroughly out prepared Oh, I don't know. I don't think it's White win yet. Fritz 9 seems a bit too pessimistic (almost -2) but white seems clearly better. Was 10...dxc4 really necessary?


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #693 - 10/07/06 at 12:55:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	Markovich wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:50:50: castlerock wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:47:48: Yes, Unfortunately. Game is gone for Kramnik. He's thoroughly out prepared Oh, I don't know. I don't think it's White win yet. Well, i don't know who would want to play Black here! And it is only move 20. ! Any theroticians out there care to say where this game deviated?

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castlerock God Member Offline Erro Ergo Sum Posts: 842 Location: Chennai Joined: 02/24/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #692 - 10/07/06 at 12:54:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	No, not yet. But soon it would be I guess. It will need Kramnik's best defense to save the game. In the present scenario, I'm not optimistic. It would be great if he saves the game. Let's see.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #691 - 10/07/06 at 12:53:25	Post Tools	Print Post
	No its not a win yet, obviously White is much better but it still needs to be won, I'd assess it clear/big advantage White


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #690 - 10/07/06 at 12:51:18	Post Tools	Print Post
	shreadder clamed to 1.45


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #689 - 10/07/06 at 12:50:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	castlerock wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:47:48: Yes, Unfortunately. Game is gone for Kramnik. He's thoroughly out prepared Oh, I don't know. I don't think it's White win yet.

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castlerock God Member Offline Erro Ergo Sum Posts: 842 Location: Chennai Joined: 02/24/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #688 - 10/07/06 at 12:47:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	Yes, Unfortunately. Game is gone for Kramnik. He's thoroughly out prepared

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #687 - 10/07/06 at 12:47:45	Post Tools	Print Post
	well 19...exf4 I had not expected, it looks like a good practical choice from Kramnik - he is worse but this way he has better chances to defend


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Markovich God Member Offline Posts: 6099 Location: Columbus, Ohio Joined: 09/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #686 - 10/07/06 at 12:44:07	Post Tools	Print Post
	chessy wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:39:33: Shredders first choice was Qb5 but Kramniks Qb8 seems more logical to me Me too, although watching from e3e5.com, I don't see that yet. Ah, now I have it. After Qc2 it looks like Kramnik has to exchange his e-pawn.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #685 - 10/07/06 at 12:43:48	Post Tools	Print Post
	well 19.Qc2 - simple chess. All Topalovs moves will flow naturally now - he has 2 bishops, a weak pawns to attack, a nice kingside majority, whereas the Kramnik position looks awful to have to play for me.


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #684 - 10/07/06 at 12:39:33	Post Tools	Print Post
	Shredders first choice was Qb5 but Kramniks Qb8 seems more logical to me


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #683 - 10/07/06 at 12:37:20	Post Tools	Print Post
	shreadder is on plus 1.25　for Topalov.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #682 - 10/07/06 at 12:36:29	Post Tools	Print Post
	Well I just connected to see whats going on, and I cannot believe this position. I thought Topalov would come out strongly today, but how on earth has Kramnik managed to land himself in this position? Positionally he just looks busted already.


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #681 - 10/07/06 at 12:32:08	Post Tools	Print Post
	kramnik`s positions is already critical and he spend already more than an houre....


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #680 - 10/07/06 at 12:28:47	Post Tools	Print Post
	Antillian wrote on 10/07/06 at 12:20:39: Any thoughts on Game 9 so far? Looks like it is going to be an interesting game. I just got my first glance of the game, and it looks to me like Kramnik may be in trouble already.

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