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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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Kramnik-Topalov match (Read 89047 times)

Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #709 - 10/07/06 at 13:28:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	26.h4!? wow - I thought Topalov was going to slow-play it with 26.Bg2 and just sit on the position for a while. It looks like he's decided not to mess around though - maybe Kramniks time pressure was a consideration


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #708 - 10/07/06 at 13:27:06	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 10/07/06 at 13:23:50: Kramik has driven back Toppy's dark-square bishop and is maneuvering a knight to e6. Seems like Kramnik may be able to improve his position. I'm still not optimistic, though. Actually I believe the bisophs are strong placed on g1/g2 --> prodection the king and attack black weaknesses on queenside


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castlerock God Member Offline Erro Ergo Sum Posts: 842 Location: Chennai Joined: 02/24/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #707 - 10/07/06 at 13:26:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	OstapBender wrote on 10/07/06 at 13:23:50: Kramik has driven back Toppy's dark-square bishop and is maneuvering a knight to e6. Seems like Kramnik may be able to improve his position. I'm still not optimistic, though. I understood that much. But how can you defend the c pawn without Nh7-f6-d5, in response to e5 ? I'm unable to figure out.

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TalJechin God Member Offline There is no secret ingredient. Posts: 2892 Location: Malmö Joined: 08/12/04 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #706 - 10/07/06 at 13:26:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	What about 26.e5 as black no longer has Nd5 to block the diagonal. e.g. Rc8 27.h4 Bh6 28.Nc3 (>Ne4)


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #705 - 10/07/06 at 13:24:23	Post Tools	Print Post
	castlerock wrote on 10/07/06 at 13:22:38: 25...Nhf8? what is the idea? ...Ne6 I think

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #704 - 10/07/06 at 13:23:50	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kramik has driven back Toppy's dark-square bishop and is maneuvering a knight to e6. Seems like Kramnik may be able to improve his position. I'm still not optimistic, though.

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castlerock God Member Offline Erro Ergo Sum Posts: 842 Location: Chennai Joined: 02/24/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #703 - 10/07/06 at 13:22:38	Post Tools	Print Post
	25...Nhf8? what is the idea?

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #702 - 10/07/06 at 13:19:04	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kramnik has time trouble adding to his difficulties. I agree he's not lost yet, but he's in trouble.

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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #701 - 10/07/06 at 13:13:35	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kh1!? I suppose the idea is to give a square on g1 for his Bishop - with ishops on g2 and g1 it looks like he can set about torturing Black


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #700 - 10/07/06 at 13:09:34	Post Tools	Print Post
	Kh1 funny since i am online Toplov played allways the first choice of shredder.


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micawber God Member Offline like many sneaks and skunks in history he's a poet Posts: 852 Location: Netherlands Joined: 09/07/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #699 - 10/07/06 at 13:07:17	Post Tools	Print Post
	I think part of Kramniks disadvantage is optical. Dont forget that the white position has some pawn weaknesses as well, and white needs to hold on to his white squared bishop otherwise his King position will become very dubious.


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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #698 - 10/07/06 at 13:04:13	Post Tools	Print Post
	shredder gives gives now1.27. As an human I think black has good counter chances (at least on patzer level)


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Antillian God Member Offline Brilliance without dazzle! Posts: 1757 Joined: 01/05/03 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #697 - 10/07/06 at 13:00:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Maybe it is not all the bad for Black. Looks like a classic Hanging Pawn struggle, except for the c6 pawn.

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chessy Full Member Offline I love ChessPublishing.com! Posts: 189 Location: Europe Joined: 12/17/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #696 - 10/07/06 at 12:59:31	Post Tools	Print Post
	shredder8 gives now 1.50. (deep14/35)


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #695 - 10/07/06 at 12:58:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	I wouldn't be that pessimistic for your man yet Castlerock - Black position looks difficult to get at to me.


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