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Topalov wins    
  23 (29.1%)
Kramnik wins    
  37 (46.8%)
Draw    
  2 (2.5%)
Match gets cancelled    
  17 (21.5%)
other?...    
  0 (0.0%)




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Reply #949 - 10/12/06 at 11:26:46
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I think Kramnik is winning after 13…f5. Even Keano’s kid sister can check mate Topalov, Now. Grin
  

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Reply #948 - 10/12/06 at 11:25:04
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13...f5 I would never have played either! But now we look more I suppose it is playable...not so easy to get at the weaknesses
  
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Reply #947 - 10/12/06 at 11:23:37
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Maybe John, but I think I prefer to play this position as Black than the other ones where White has the 2 bishops
  
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Reply #946 - 10/12/06 at 11:22:00
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13....f5?!?!?!

Jehoshaphat. That is a move. I understand nothing.
  
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Reply #945 - 10/12/06 at 11:20:01
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Is it a novelty? I can't see it catching on much - if Black wants this sort of solid slightly inferior position in this line he can always get it, you'd think. Although to be sure whether it catches on is going to depend on the result of this game.

I wonder if we'll come to see this as the biggest single game in chess history? It could be the difference between the world championship coming to an effective end, or not.
  
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Reply #944 - 10/12/06 at 11:15:51
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9...Bb4 looks a good novelty, Black is solid. We must be out of prep now so time to play chess!
  
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Reply #943 - 10/12/06 at 11:11:57
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Less of the two-bishop thing, then. Topalov's gone solid. White surely ought to be reasonably happy with this.

I know nothing about the theory of this - although presumably every d4 player's going to have to soon. Where's Inn2?? Although I seem to recall he reckons he'd never play this line as Black, so maybe he knows nothing either.
  
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Reply #942 - 10/12/06 at 11:09:02
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Greetings, castlerock. Tense day ahead.

He's a monkey, that Topalov, isn't he? Difficult one to predict. On the whole though I don't think Kramnik should mind. He's always been a great two-bishop man, and of course it's just possible that here he has some interesting ideas. And he's not likely to get caught in any sharp prep himself.

I hope.
  
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Reply #941 - 10/12/06 at 11:06:11
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And I'm not comfortable.
  

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Reply #940 - 10/12/06 at 11:03:38
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Funny, Kramnik plays Topalov’s line.
  

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Reply #939 - 10/12/06 at 10:21:35
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Thats right by this stage don't just want a Kramnik win, but one as slow and painful as possible. Prefably one going to 150+ moves, with Topalov really losing the will to live...
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #938 - 10/12/06 at 05:36:58
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If Topalov plays the Slav, Kramnik should whip out his 10 years of secret analysis and intense undercover training in the Exchange Slav and grind him down to woodchips. Work it, baby, work it!  Shocked
  
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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #937 - 10/12/06 at 04:22:40
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from http://www.bennedik.de/ Quote:
Wednesday, October 11, 2006
Kramnik-Topalov game twelve preview

In game ten Topalov played the Catalan again, and Kramnik again reached a better position. I won't do analysis of concrete moves today - there is an excellent analysis of the game at chesspro.ru, where Mikhail Golubev replaces Peter Svidler, who is now playing at the European Club Cup. I think Topalov is somehow playing the Catalan when he wants to draw, and the Slav when he wants to win with Black.

Game twelve is the last game in the match, and Kramnik has White. While I generally think Topalov should play for a draw and not risk too much, I can only recommend the Slav to him.

Out of Topalov's four games with Black so far (not counting the forfeit), he played the Slav once, and the Catalan three times. Topalov has scored one point out of the Slav game, and half a point out of the three Catalan games together. He also had a good position out of the opening in the Slav game, but three times a worse position in the Catalan games. Enough said.

  

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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #936 - 10/12/06 at 01:44:31
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OstapBender wrote on 10/12/06 at 00:55:46:
IMJohnCox wrote on 10/11/06 at 23:23:18:
On the other hand, the IHT, that noted chess journal, offers from the end of Malc's line...

FOrgive my ignorance, but what is the IHT?



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Re: Kramnik-Topalov match
Reply #935 - 10/12/06 at 00:55:46
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IMJohnCox wrote on 10/11/06 at 23:23:18:
On the other hand, the IHT, that noted chess journal, offers from the end of Malc's line...

FOrgive my ignorance, but what is the IHT?
  

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