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Topalov wins 23 (29.1%) Kramnik wins 37 (46.8%) Draw 2 (2.5%) Match gets cancelled 17 (21.5%) other?... 0 (0.0%) Total votes: 79 « Created by: OstapBender on: 05/25/06 at 17:35:43 »

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Kramnik-Topalov match (Read 89023 times)

OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1009 - 10/12/06 at 13:29:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	http://www.france-echecs.com/diagramme/imgboard.phpfen=1R6/pr1q2pk/2p4r/3p1p2/3P... After 28...Rb7 Keano, I don't see how you can claim an advantage for Black here. I doubt White has serious winning chances, though.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1008 - 10/12/06 at 13:28:43	Post Tools	Print Post
	...Rb7; excellent sign for White, surely? Once Black's trading pieces he'll surely find this rook on h6 quite hard to justify, won't he?


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1007 - 10/12/06 at 13:26:37	Post Tools	Print Post
	If worst comes to worst I think the endgames are also reasonable for Black here, so its clear something went wrong for Kramnik, or else he just didnt have much. Blacks position seems to have more potential, I think kramnik is playing to hold now.


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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1006 - 10/12/06 at 13:25:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	aha-cunning; Qf8 to trade queens if ...Qf7. Anyone got an engine running? I can't be doing with this thinking for myself.


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Klick God Member Offline Posts: 528 Joined: 01/31/03	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1005 - 10/12/06 at 13:25:05	Post Tools	Print Post
	Susan Polgar says the blog is unavaliable due to some Google-error (what has google got to do with blogspot?). She is trying to fix it, but regretably I am not sure it is within her powers to fix something like this before the game is over.

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MarinFan Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 447 Location: Leeds Joined: 04/04/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1004 - 10/12/06 at 13:23:56	Post Tools	Print Post
	Looks like good choice from Topalov. Kramnik is well known to not like Bg2, in these f5 structures .... At least according to Seirwan the other day.


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1003 - 10/12/06 at 13:23:46	Post Tools	Print Post
	Keano wrote on 10/12/06 at 13:20:02: Plan of bringing the Queen to h5 looks dangerous also..... White defends with h2-h4 and then ...gxh3 is answered by Kh2.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1002 - 10/12/06 at 13:23:09	Post Tools	Print Post
	Hmm. ...Qxh2+ isn't mate on its own, is it? Or is it - say 26...Rc7 27 Rcb1 Qf7 28 Rb7 Rxb7 29 Rxb7 Qh5 30 Qxa7 Qxh2+ 31 Kf1 Nd2+ 32 Ke2 Qxg2 looks possible; Rxg7+ doesn't do anything by itself and Black's next turn is devastating. Not clear throwing in Rb8+ helped, either. Wonder what White has in mind.


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1001 - 10/12/06 at 13:20:02	Post Tools	Print Post
	Plan of bringing the Queen to h5 looks dangerous also.....


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #1000 - 10/12/06 at 13:16:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	http://www.france-echecs.com/diagramme/imgboard.phpfen=2r3k1/p2q2p1/Q1p4r/3p1p2/... After 26.Qa6 Maybe 26...Rc7 then ...Qf7-h5?

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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #999 - 10/12/06 at 13:12:32	Post Tools	Print Post
	24...g4 played (I guess the other g-pawn will be pushed and major pieces will move to h-file) and then 25.Rb2. Looks like Kramnik changed his mind; he has wasted some time with his rooks here.

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MarinFan Senior Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 447 Location: Leeds Joined: 04/04/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #998 - 10/12/06 at 13:11:59	Post Tools	Print Post
	Everything seems really slow. This game must be really packing in the punters...


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Keano God Member Offline Money doesn't talk, it swears. Posts: 2928 Location: Toulouse Joined: 05/25/05 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #997 - 10/12/06 at 13:11:52	Post Tools	Print Post
	I disconnected for a while, looks like things are going according to plan for Topalov? The minority attack happened but c6 is well covered and there is good counterplay in any case. I think this game is a good example of a minority attack in and of itself alone is not good enough to win a game, there must be another dynamic factor also...


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OstapBender God Member Offline There is no spoon. Posts: 1491 Location: not in Kansas anymore Joined: 10/16/04	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #996 - 10/12/06 at 13:01:41	Post Tools	Print Post
	I can no longer access Susan Polgar's blog page. Live coverage also at: http://www.e3e5.com/eng/petersburg/competitions/article.html?254 Not updated as frequently as Susan Polgar's site, but good GM game commentary.

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IMJohnCox God Member Offline I Love ChessPublishing! Posts: 1551 Location: London Joined: 01/28/06 Gender:	Re: Kramnik-Topalov match Reply #995 - 10/12/06 at 13:00:42	Post Tools	Print Post
	Is it only me that can't open Susan P's commentary?


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